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To: Aquinasfan; agrace
The Septuagint is the version that is consistently referred to by Jesus and the Apostles in the New Testament. The table about one-fourth way down the page lists 30 of the more significant references.

Which Septuagint? There is no such thing as a complete Septuagint in existance. The earliest version available is dated after 300 A.D.

Which came first, the Gospels or the Septuagint? Remember, "tradition" doesn't count. What is the earliest hard copy of the Septuagint?

138 posted on 03/14/2004 3:30:42 PM PST by OLD REGGIE ((I am a cult of one! UNITARJEWMIAN) Maybe a Biblical Unitarian?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Which Septuagint? There is no such thing as a complete Septuagint in existance. The earliest version available is dated after 300 A.D.

Available today, you mean. This may be true as the library in Alexandria was burned t to the ground.

Which came first, the Gospels or the Septuagint?

The Septuagint was first, since it was written before Christ's birth and was well known by the Jewish diaspora.

146 posted on 03/14/2004 4:23:34 PM PST by NeoCaveman (Hey John F. Kerry, why the long face?)
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To: OLD REGGIE
Which Septuagint? There is no such thing as a complete Septuagint in existence. The earliest version available is dated after 300 A.D.

That's interesting. The Dead Sea Scrolls date to between 170BC and 70AD. They include the Apocrypha in the LXX translation. Or are you "spinning" (in the correct definition of course) looking only for a complete LXX?

150 posted on 03/14/2004 4:41:19 PM PST by IMRight
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To: OLD REGGIE
Remember, "tradition" doesn't count.

The Bible is written Tradition, which began as oral Tradition. Jesus didn't hand over a completed New Testament to the Apostles.

In fact, the Bible doesn't record Jesus commissioning the Apostles to write a New Testament. The Great Commission was to "go and make Apostles of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit."

The Apostles were expecting the Second Coming within their lifetimes. When they realized that that might not happen, they began to record Jesus' life and teachings in writing, facts that had previously been passed on orally. A consensus regarding which books constituted Sacred Scripture later emerged, but many books were disputed. The canon of Scripture wasn't formally declared by the Church until around the year 400 A.D., in several Church Councils. It is the canon used by Catholics today.

179 posted on 03/15/2004 5:13:42 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: OLD REGGIE; Canticle_of_Deborah
This link provides a good explanation of Unum Sanctum and the teaching of salvation outside the Church. It reflects my understanding of the teaching.
181 posted on 03/15/2004 5:20:11 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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