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To: the808bass
Favor is often a translation for the word "grace." God's grace, readily available to all, is indeed a comfort for believers everywhere.

Grace is favor. Please give me scriptures that say that God gives saving grace to all men (as opposed to the general grace on all creation )

"Set apart" is tied to the idea of "holy" as the greek word temenos reflects in its sacred usage. And to the Arminian, it is God that makes us Holy as a result of our faith in Christ. So, the Arminian can say a hearty "amen" to everything you posted without believing a whit in predestination.

Nope I do not think an Arminian can say Amen to the sovereignty of God .

Notice who is the god in your last statement. God gives grace BECAUSE the man earned it by his wise choices . God owes it to men to do that it seems ,God is mans debtor.

Man acts correctly and gets saved...how is that grace (God's UNMERITED FAVOR) . This sounds merited to me .

Do you think that God has free will?

4,484 posted on 04/15/2004 3:10:24 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
God gives grace BECAUSE the man earned it by his wise choices

When God makes a covenant with humanity and offers grace as a gift, not based upon works, but upon simple acceptance of the covenant, it is not a "wise choice" that the human has made. It is simply a response to the drawing of the Holy Spirit. You cannot understand this because you cannot see anything but Calvinism. Having an unfalsifiable position is not a particular point of strength, not matter how appealing it first appears.

4,490 posted on 04/15/2004 3:21:27 PM PDT by the808bass
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