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To: RnMomof7; malakhi; PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain; SoothingDave
What did you read that was out of context with scripture? I'm serious. Maybe I missed something. I don't mean by Calvinist interpretation either but that directly contradicted. No, ifs or buts.

I don't mean this in a bad way but I see no difference in you putting your faith in the organized spritual leading of Mr. Calvin than Dave would from his pope. I'm one of the rebellious I guess that doesn't put my faith in man because they are only human and can fail you, even if unintentional.

So, everything I read today I saw as supported and "comforted" by scripture. If not I would have spoken up.

As for Malakhi, I look at it that he's half way there so 50 % of the x he's got to be right . ( just teasing, Mal ). Engines aren't always at the front you know. He might have been in the lead today but who is to say Becky wasn't steering :')

4,420 posted on 04/15/2004 12:08:01 PM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: CindyDawg; kevin; Dr. Eckleburg
I don't mean this in a bad way but I see no difference in you putting your faith in the organized spritual leading of Mr. Calvin than Dave would from his pope. I'm one of the rebellious I guess that doesn't put my faith in man because they are only human and can fail you, even if unintentional.

Cindy that is an insult and intended to be belittling and demeaning.We follow Christ . You have stated a lie and then tried to smear us with your lie.

Do you ever bother to read anything that I post? The first teachers of Predestination were Jesus , Peter and Paul. The Baptists were the first church to teach that doctrine , why ? Because it is the doctrine of the Bible .

The Augustine taught it , and Luther a student of Augustine taught it .

It is called "Calvinism" is ONLY AS A NICK NAME

Calvin was the first man to sit down and write a "Systematic Theology ". So the doctrines of Grace are often called buy his name .

Kevin posted Chapters from the "Institutes" on FR for discussion . I believe that study , of scripture presented in an orderly systematic way, letting the scripture determine the doctrine is what brought Kevin to Calvinism.

As for you assertion that we follow a man, I might point out that Calvinism is the faith of the reformation because it is in the Bible . Although you do not like to think it ,you have fully placed your faith in the man that stands before you on Sundays to preach. You have accepted the theology of that man and not searched the scriptures as the Bereans did . I know that because when I ask you for the scripture to confirm what you believe , you offer none as citation . What you do is repeat the teachings you sit under.

As for Malakhi, I look at it that he's half way there so 50 % of the x he's got to be right . ( just teasing, Mal ). Engines aren't always at the front you know. He might have been in the lead today but who is to say Becky wasn't steering :')

No, the Bible tells us that the Jews read the old Testament without understanding because they have been blinded to the truth. ( look it up if you doubt me, both OT and NT )

And Cindy , salvation is not like horeshoes, close does not count .

4,454 posted on 04/15/2004 2:14:30 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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