[RnMomof7]

You can present God as warm and loving and willing to embrace the sinner. Yes, you can. Of course that is more difficult when you have a theology that makes God the author and willer of sin and destruction and damnation.

Indeed you can , and should as He is a loving and Merciful Father to His children.

But to the reprobate presenting him as the good humor man will get more of a response (at least they will run to the window to look.)

Dave, God is the totality of His attributes. He is not one thing at the exclusion of the others . To remove or deny any of His attributes makes him not God.

God is love, He is mercy , He is good, He is Holy and He is Just .

His justice demands that men be condemned for their rebellion and sin. He is Holy and they can not stand in His presence, they are an abomination to Him.

Because He is long suffering He has extended mercy to some . He is glorified in both His Just condemnation and in His Mercy .

God is not the "author' of sin, He does not need to be, man will willingly make that choice on a daily basis .

[malakhi]

God is not the "author' of sin, He does not need to be, man will willingly make that choice on a daily basis .

Explain to me exactly how, in your understanding, man chooses to sin.

[SoothingDave]

His justice demands that men be condemned for their rebellion and sin....man will willingly make that choice on a daily basis .

Who made man that way? Is man overruling God's sovereignity in order to make these decisions? Is the natural man to blame for his condition? He is born incapable of good, God never changes him, and then God damns him for eternity for doing exactly what God wants?

Is that your belief?

Just tell me, one of you Calvinists, before I have to ask a 6th time. Who made the natural man the way he is?

SD