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To: RnMomof7
You believe men can earn grace.

No, I don't.

But you guys don't accept free will. You make God's will everything. Which means God is responsible for the damnation of those. No matter how much you protest. Making God's will the highest thing leads you to this.

Wow that is just awful isn't it? Who does He think he is anyway God or something ?

No man will be in hell that does not deserve to be there. God does not need to apologize for His Justice or His Mercy

This will be the 4th time asking. If the men in hell deserve to be there cause they could never choose the good, who made them that way? Are they more sovereign than God, able to create their own motives and actions? Or are they just doing what is in God's plan?

SD

4,031 posted on 04/13/2004 1:40:48 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: SoothingDave
You believe men can earn grace.
No, I don't.

Well as a Faithful Catholic you should

Q.574. What is a Sacrament?

Q.575. Are these three things, namely: An outward or visible sign, the institution of that sign by Christ, and the giving of grace through the use of that sign, always necessary for the existence of a Sacrament?

We memorized it a bit more simply

What is a Sacrament?

An outward sign instituted by Christ to give grace

So you EARN grace every time you go to confession or communion

This will be the 4th time asking. If the men in hell deserve to be there cause they could never choose the good, who made them that way?

Men do not choose God because original sin causes us to be born sinners..thank Adam

Are they more sovereign than God, able to create their own motives and actions? Or are they just doing what is in God's plan?

Nothing can occurs that is outside Gods plan. He is sovereign over all things that occur on this earth. All things , including sin serve His sovereign plan . Even Satan can not act without the consent of God.

4,052 posted on 04/13/2004 2:35:17 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Broomstick Jockey)
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