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To: CindyDawg
Serious question, ok?

CD I try to take all, well most, of your questions seriously. ;^)

How does all this affect salvation? (Pre-determination or free will).

I don't think it does. Salvation is still by Grace through faith. In both systems only those that God knows will ever come to faith in Christ.

It's just on the one hand we Calvinists believe that a man had to acted on by God first in order to be able to believe in Christ.

On the other hand it is said that a man can come to faith in Christ without God having to act upon him.

But we both believe it is "whosoever will."

3,967 posted on 04/13/2004 11:04:26 AM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: ksen
I know but I don't lol

Ok then. This is an intersting topic and people should be able to post what they want but wouldn't it be better to agree that yall think only some are the elect but don't know who whereas some of us believe all can be the elect if they choose and we all get back to the not yet elects ? :')

3,972 posted on 04/13/2004 11:20:01 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: ksen
I'll check back later. Time to get back to work. Later
3,974 posted on 04/13/2004 11:21:43 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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