No, I've ceeded THAT point (in fact I MADE that point)... "If you claim to be Jewish Messiah you're an observant Jew..." (IF, and ONLY if you ARE the Messiah).
You see my point? Only someone who believes He was truthful can claim He was "observant". if He was lying about being the Messiah then He was hardly "observant" (blasphemy not falling well within the bounds of "observant Judaism").
Are you saying you belive He was telling the truth about being the Messiah?
Just because I don't believe His claims to be Messiah doesn't mean he was lying about it. He sincerely may have believed it. Observant Jews don't make mistakes?
See my last post to JHavard. You are introducing here the Christian concept of "messiah". There is nothing sinful or contrary to the commandments for someone to believe that he is the messiah (as I defined it above). Even if he is wrong. Throughout history there have been many messianic claimants. They may have been wrong. They may have failed. But they didn't sin in proclaiming themselves as such.
There is a Jewish tradition that in every generation, there is a man who has the potential to be the messiah. The only way we'll know we've found the right guy is when he has fulfilled the prophecies. Until he has done that, he is, at best, a candidate.