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To: the808bass; ksen
How frustrated God must be. He wants everyone saved, but some still slip through His fingers.

And how powerful man must be to thwart the Creator of heaven and earth.

"Therefore hath he mercy on whom he will have mercy, and whom he will he hardeneth." - Romans 9:18.

I guess maybe He does gets His way sometimes, eh?

2,804 posted on 04/09/2004 12:44:09 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
How frustrated God must be. He wants everyone saved, but some still slip through His fingers.

And how powerful man must be to thwart the Creator of heaven and earth.

God grieves at the loss, yes. It is not the frustration of One who cannot make something occur that they wish to occur. It is the frustration of loving someone to die for them to make them whole and then not having that love returned, nor wholeness achieved. And it is not power that man inherently possesses that allows him to do this. It is power that God has given to him with the gift of Free Will.

Do you notice how easily your weighted arguments are answered by simply changing the nuance with which you intepret Arminianism? You might want to consider the very real possibility that you have no idea what Arminians believe. But you can prove a poor straw man version of the theology wrong in 30 seconds flat and that is indeed something upon which to hang your hat.

2,993 posted on 04/09/2004 6:42:37 PM PDT by the808bass
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