[Dr. Eckleburg]

I grant nearly the totality of the Calvinist position as true on a cosmic level.

That's an interesting post. And the concept is, like you said, almost "incomprehensible."

I think the "practicality" it provides us, however, is worth considering as part of God's gift to us; to know that we are His, and that He has "covered us in the shadow of His hand" from the foundation of the world.

[SoothingDave]

That's an interesting post.

Thank you, I try.

And the concept is, like you said, almost "incomprehensible."

It is beyond our understanding how our free will and God's pre-determining work together. We are too limited to understand it. It's a mystery. Where you guys err is by emphasising the one to the exclusion of the other.

Your error is relatively small, but very significant.

Since you are here, can you explain why Unconditional Election and Irresistable Grace are 2 points and not just a re-statement of the same thing?

SD