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To: IMRight; Invincibly Ignorant
If you assume that he does NOT exist, then being a Christian just means you THINK you have such a relationship.

If you THINK you have a relationship with someone you assume does NOT exist then you are crazy.

Steven fit that bill.

I'm not willing to go that far. ;^)

1,767 posted on 04/05/2004 12:49:48 PM PDT by ksen (This day we fight! By all that you hold dear on this good earth I bid you stand, Men of the West!)
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To: ksen; Invincibly Ignorant; IMRight
If Steven can see how his relationship with Jesus helped him grow closer to God and his Torah, even though it turns out that "Jesus" is a chimera, it should help him and the others like him to understand how a True God can use what light of truth is in a culture for His own means.

To put it another way, Steven, by trying to eschew the pagan and find the pure God has discovered that even our Jesus is a pagan accretion. And ironically, a relationship with this pagan god led him to the True God.

SD

1,770 posted on 04/05/2004 1:01:59 PM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: ksen; malakhi
If you THINK you have a relationship with someone you assume does NOT exist then you are crazy.

Nice twist. If you THOUGHT you HAD a relationship with someone you NOW don't think exists (but DID THEN) you're not crazy. Especially in the case of a "someone" who can't be seen or heard etc. etc. etc.

Ask Angelo. He certainly doesn't define "Christian" as being someone with a relationship with a "Jesus" that he doesn't even think exists. You have to BE someone with some level of that relationship to believe that the relationship is the dividing line. I'm not willing to go that far. ;^)

Perhaps not. But I was here before he came unhinged and he certainly "talked the talk" like someone who had (or believed he had) such a relationship. More than one of the NCs here was "fooled" if he was faking it.

The real problem is that (if you fall into the OSAS crowd) you are forced to think that he was/is a liar. I don't need to make such an assumption.

1,771 posted on 04/05/2004 1:03:18 PM PDT by IMRight
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