[IMRight]

It is not ironical to me that the Calvinists would be quick to rebuke II for his decision. However, it does seem strange to me that those who hold that we have an unlimited Free Will have so easily given II up to his fate.

Amen.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

I went back and read all the posts since II announcement. Who has given him up to his fate?

BigMack

[the808bass]

However, it does seem strange to me that those who hold that we have an unlimited Free Will have so easily given II up to his fate.

Perhaps because you catch more flies with honey. And I would wager an even $10 that not one word that the Calvinists have uttered in response to Steven's announcement has had one iota of effect upon him other than "yup, that's about what I expected." And that's not something to take pride in.

I will still debate doctrinal, historical and cultural points with vigor with Steven. But, I would further wager that conversions in 80% of the cases are not accomplished by study, but by relationship. And it's mighty hard to have a relationship with someone you hold at arm's length.