[jwalsh07]

Respectfully, what does that prove in the context of the scripture earlier?

Respectfully, those words from scripture offer plenty of room for debate on original sin. You may not agree with Catholic interpretation of those words but you nor I are the final arbiter.

I don't claim omniscience, I would hope you don't either.

[jonboy]

LOL. I certainly don't claim omniscience (although my wife sometimes claims I'm a know it all). But I do happen to think this debate is answerable. I hope that I wasn't coming across as the Great and Powerful Know It All, I certainly take pains to avoid that. That said, I think a good debate is not one to be avoided but helps us all grow. I think that we ALL should earn our beliefs, not rest on easy dogma. I for one welcome debate in good spirit and faith.