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This article seems to be quite transparent in the message they want to give out.Do you have any thoughts about the priests they did interview?I would bet they are somewhat dissident,or at least not orthodox.

I would also guess the majority of the interviewees are lets gather round the table and eat at the banquet and then go out and mix and mingle with the world on the world's terms kind of Catholics.

I like the effort to bury anything but spirit of vatII bishops,no mention is made of at least 20 years worth of bishops,only Ritter and May make it through their process.Did you not receive your catechesis under the reign of May? If I remember correctly you haave had to educate yourself,pretty much. If I am right then this pride in having such a high per centage of Catholic school educated church members,is not anything that augers well for the Church.

On the other hand,you see a lot of good things happening,am I correct? I value your assessment of the diocese so much more than that propaganda piece.

Do you have any thoughts about the priests they did interview?I would bet they are somewhat dissident,or at least not orthodox.

St. Cronan is the local revolutionary parish. Their pastor was interviewd. None of the people who belong there, actually live in the parish boundries. Most of them are suburbanites who travel into this slice of no man's land between the highways in the city to hear their thoughts confirmed. Most of them left the reservation long ago and don't realize it.

Msgr. Delaney had been head of the seminary and is now pastor at St. John the Evangelist downtown. (Essentially a demotion) He's not really one of the more warm people around either.

What this article doesn't mention, is that demographically, younger people are moving back into the city.

We had weather last night, so I need to run. I'll be back later.

If I am right then this pride in having such a high per centage of Catholic school educated church members,is not anything that augers well for the Church.

Right. We want dumb Catholics who'll do whatever they're told, including assisting bishops in covering up for sexual abusers.

I like the effort to bury anything but spirit of vatII bishops,no mention is made of at least 20 years worth of bishops,only Ritter and May make it through their process.Did you not receive your catechesis under the reign of May?

Ritter was pre-Vatican II. His presence is legendary around here. There's a high school named for him (that's usually a sign of respect in these parts). His successor was John Joseph Cardinal Carberry, who actually outlived May. He was 97 when he died. He was a very good man, but not a particularly strong one. It was under his tenure that my original "catechesis" was formed.

In May's first years here, we lived away. My father's job took us to another place. When we came back, it was time for me to go to high school and, yes, that part of my education was under May. He, like the bishops before him, did emphasize sending children to Catholic schools, but he also had to close a high school. So did Rigali, actually. Carberry closed at least five.

Yes, the article is very one sided. There is no mention of the Latin Mass movement or the number of young couples having 4-8 children. I see them a lot. I think Pat interviewed her contacts and didn't look any farther.