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To: ultima ratio
UNORTHODOX=HERETICAL! That is the plain sense of the words. You sir are a Marxist casuist with no sense of truth or decency. You manipulate language to serve your anti-Papal agenda. That is precisely what Marx and Lenin and the Modernists and Liberation Theologians did. You have apparently learned at their school.
36 posted on 01/20/2004 10:21:20 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: Unam Sanctam
Your association of the word "unorthodox" with heresy is incorrect. One is heretical only if one breaks with a dogma of the Church. But one may be unorthodox in the opinions one holds about many matters other than dogmas. Literally "orthodoxy" means "correct doctrine." But not all doctrines are dogmas.

As for being a Marxist--that is laughable. I'm a Bush conservative. Nor am I a casuist. I speak honestly and truthfully as I understand the truth. What annoys you is that although I am a Catholic, I simply don't believe the Pope should be beyond criticism. Such criticism, in fact, is long overdue. Perhaps if he got a little less adulation and more honesty from subordinates, he would weigh the damaging effects of his behavior more realistically.
39 posted on 01/20/2004 11:37:45 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: Unam Sanctam
Amen. Welcome to the club. We are Catholics who long ago recognised the hatred and perfidy of this gentleman. He repeatedly says one must be judged by their actions. His attacks on the Living Magisterium are as infamous as they are interminable and unrelenting.
57 posted on 01/22/2004 7:55:29 AM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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