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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
***Just because he isn't affiliated with Mahony doesn't make him schismatic***

Please explain.
25 posted on 01/11/2004 12:36:13 PM PST by drstevej
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To: drstevej; ultima ratio; Maximilian
My understanding of schism is this: a priest or society must have the intention of separating themselves from the Pope by denying his authority to command. Essentially, I think that is sedevacantism. Ultima or Maximilian may be able to explain this better than I can.

This is why the SSPX is not in schism but in an irregular situation with Rome. They do not deny the Pope's authority to command but refuse to obey elements which are not in line with Tradition. Disobedience is not schism, much like a child who is disobedient to a parent is still the parent's child. Msgr. Perle has written a letter to the faithful stating that attendance at SSPX Masses is acceptable. If SSPX was in schism he would not have said this.

Mahony has no control over the SSPX in his diocese. They are not part of it, yet their Masses and Sacraments are valid.

I don't know whether Mel or his priest are sedevacantist or not. I do know that his exhibition of Catholic faith is the stuff of Mahony's nightmares.
31 posted on 01/11/2004 1:45:25 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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