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To: drstevej
There are no facts here. If these alleged relics were real they would be sitting in Rome today.

Do you think Maria Monk was a great author too? Hey, I heard a Pentecostal say the nuns used to wear big robes to hide all their pregnancies, then they killed the babies and hid the bodies in the basement. Why don't you spread that rumor around today?

Sure some Popes had illegitimate kids. They were condemned. Sure Mahony is a heretic. He is condemned. The problem with Luther is that he was a heretic who denied the words of Christ and preached a false gospel. He was condemned by the Church but embraced by Protestants. Why do you think a man who says the things I've quoted is qualified to lead a Christian revolution?

I hear much about the errors of Catholicism but I've yet to hear the truth of Protestantism. The biggest claim to fame seems to be that you're not Catholics. Neither are Mormons (of whom you have more in common than you want to admit).
76 posted on 01/03/2004 2:25:28 PM PST by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
***Sure Mahony is a heretic. He is condemned. ***

Excuse me, I thought he was still an Archbishop in your church. Heretics can be archbishops?

***I hear much about the errors of Catholicism but I've yet to hear the truth of Protestantism.***

Either too much ear wax or spiritual blindness.

***If these alleged relics were real they would be sitting in Rome today.***

Who said they were real, not me. I said they were presented as such by your church. Indulgences were offered for venerating them.

Are all real relics in Rome today? I didn't think so.

***Why do you think a man who says the things I've quoted is qualified to lead a Christian revolution? ***

Still waiting for context. Luther was hardly the sole leaders. In fact your Erasmus publication of the Greek New Testament was a tremendous help.

Look up Julius Exclusus by Erasmus. Hear his concern about abuses at the era of Luther.
78 posted on 01/03/2004 2:34:02 PM PST by drstevej
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