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To: drstevej
Steve, I don't think this sort of thread really helps anyone to live a holier, more Christ-centered life.

Everyone -- Catholic or otherwise -- agrees that there were all sorts of abuses, oddities, wickedness, and general goofy flakiness running around in late-medieval Catholicism. St. Thomas More and Erasmus together mocked the bizarre cult of relics in London, for example. Luther thought he needed a schism to fix the problem. The Church ended up having an ecumenical council, Trent, to fix the problem. You can claim, if you wish, that they didn't get the job done, but the fact remains that post-Tridentine Catholicism is not the same beast [pun intended] as the Catholicism in which Luther grew to manhood.

Moreover, there are no late-medieval Catholics on FR. Not one! So (although some Protestants seem to be permanently stuck in 1517, and may have trouble believing this) you're bringing up stuff that is at least peripherally foreign to most of us, and even essentially foreign to some of us.

Believe it or not, relic-veneration is not a central element of modern Catholic practice. It's really pretty peripheral. We have a relic in our house, but the essence of our domestic spirituality with our kids consists of the Divine Office, which is mostly Bible reading and prayers of petition, and getting to Mass on Sundays.

I guess what I'm saying is that I don't see that this thread accomplishes anything except sowing dissension and causing food-fights. I don't like threads like that when Catholics start them, either, and I think you can do better.

267 posted on 01/05/2004 4:18:21 PM PST by Campion
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To: Campion
Yes, none of us are from that era...(THANK GOD!)......and it is sad when people hold onto that. I am pretty sure we could find corruption in all the closets of all Christianity, in the way past, and it doesn't matter. We are through it, we are here NOW, and we want to spread the word.
Right?
And even though I am Lutheran, that doesn't mean that I think any less of Catholics. They are just as valid as me, if they really received Christ in there hearts.
279 posted on 01/05/2004 11:40:08 PM PST by sfRummygirl (SAVE TERRI SHINDLER SCHIAVO...www.terrisfight.org)
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