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To: NYer
I suppose this will only crank up the rallying cry of those who seek to eliminate a celibate catholic priesthood

An exclusively celibate priesthood has already been eliminated, thanks to priests like Fr. Livingstone, but nobody is seeking to eliminate from the priesthood those truly called to celibacy.

In fact, celibacy freely chosen would serve as a great witness.

3 posted on 12/30/2003 7:03:47 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
In fact, celibacy freely chosen would serve as a great witness.

CELIBACY ALREADY IS FREELY CHOSEN. EVERY SINGLE PRIEST EVER ORDAINED IN THE LATIN RITE RITE HAS FREELY CHOSEN CELIBACY If you have any evidence priests are being ordained against their will, produce it or shut-up.

BTW, is there any independent information available that can establish whether or not you are a Deacon? I can't believe you are a Catholic Deacon so obsessed are you with eliminating celibacy as a mandatory discipline and opposing the Pope.

4 posted on 12/30/2003 7:23:06 AM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: sinkspur; St.Chuck; sitetest; heyheyhey; narses; BlackElk
I just thought of something. According to Canon Law 266 you are a member of the Clergy "By the receeption of the diaconate a person becomes a cleric...." and you have duties you promised to discharge, such as those delineated in Canon Law # 273 CLERICS HAVE A SPECIAL OBLIGATION TO SHOW REVERENCE AND OBEDIENCE TO THE SUPREME PONTIFF and to their own ordinary.

and you have the duty to obey Canon Law # 275 SINCE ALL CLERICS ARE WORKING FOR THE SAME PURPOSE, NAMELY BUILIDING UP OF THE BODY OF CHRIST, THEY ARE TO BE UNITED WITH ONE ANOTHER IN THE BOND OF BROTHERHOOD AND PRAYER. THEY ARE TO SEEK TO COOPERATE WITH ONE ANOTHER IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISONS OF PARTICULAR LAW.

Does your repeated public opposition to the Pope on the matter of Priestly Celibacy show reverence and obedience to the Supreme Pontiff?

Does you repeated public opposition to the entire Living Magisterium as codified in Canon Law, the Catholic Catechism and the pertinent sections of the Documents of the Second Vatican Ecumenical Council in the matter of the mandatory discipline of Priestly Celibacy illustrate you, as a Christian Deacon, are building up the Body of Christ united in brotherhood and prayer or does your behavior literally illustrate the precise opposite of what is required of you as a Christian Deacon?

You will not fulfill your own obligations and, in fact, you knowingly and willfully work in opposition to the duties you freely accepted and promised to fulfill yet you repeatedly and publicly demand the entire Latin Rite change its 2000 year old mandatory discipline to satisy your personal agenda - which just happens to coincide with the agenda of the execrable NCR and the rebarbative Feminists and their lackeys, the vow-breaking former priests.

You are having one heck of a Chrismastide, Ace.

8 posted on 12/30/2003 7:49:58 AM PST by Catholicguy (MT1618 Church of Peter remains pure and spotless from all leading into error, or heretical fraud)
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To: sinkspur
celibacy freely chosen would serve as a great witness.

Wait a second...when is celibacy NOT freely chosen?
9 posted on 12/30/2003 7:50:16 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ on-line! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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