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Husband Michael Schiavo to Do Some Image-Polishing - FROM THE FRONT LINES AT VIGIL
THROWN BACK Blog ^ | October 26, 2003 | Fr. Rob Johansen

Posted on 10/26/2003 8:37:27 AM PST by NYer

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I tried to post this to the News/Activism Forum but was blocked, so it has been posted here.

PL.EASE GET THIS NEWS TO THOSE IN THE OTHER FORUM!

1 posted on 10/26/2003 8:37:27 AM PST by NYer
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To: american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; Polycarp; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; ...
TERRI SCHIAVO PING! – let me know if you want on/off this ping list

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list

The guy is trolling for sympathy!! He's found a willing ear and a large audience in Larry King. Spread the news .. please

2 posted on 10/26/2003 8:39:52 AM PST by NYer ("Close your ears to the whisperings of hell and bravely oppose its onslaughts." ---St Clare Assisi)
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To: NYer
Bump!
3 posted on 10/26/2003 8:56:43 AM PST by windchime
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To: NYer
1) Doctors do not agree on what is a "vegetative state." Therefore, judges cannot rule on a person's being in such a state;
first, because judges are on record as constantly regarding themselves to not be medical "experts," and therefore, they haven't the standing to decide what is or is not a "vegetative state," and

second, because such a "state" is not defined clearly enough as our Constituion requires the weight of evidence to be, in the face of certain death as a possible outcome of the decision.

2) The Constitution prohibits cruel and unusual punishment.

If the government issues an order for a person to be put to death, in this case, "to kill an in-capacitated ward," that death must be swift, and torture cannot be used --- starvation is considered to be torture.

 3) For the government to proceed with a court order to kill Terri Schiavo, Terri would have had to clearly and convincingly stated both:

that she "would not want to live that way" as she is alleged by her husband to have once said, and

that she understood that she might die, not only by having artificial life support denied her, but also by being denied food and water: she may be starved to death on her on volition.

4) Absent Constitutional authority for judges to order the killing of a person by tortuous means, no government within the United States has the power to carry out such an order.

4 posted on 10/26/2003 9:22:02 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: NYer
I don't know why this story is deemed "religious" and not "current news." Even before I had a re-conversion and I lived fully in the secular world, I would have thought this story was appalling and Mr. Schiavo's "works" were immoral and inhumane.

It still amazes me that this story is only a small footnote in the mainstream media outlets. No one I know knows much if anything about this. When I explain the facts to them they kind of look uncomfortable and change the subject. Not too many people like to take strongly held stands on issues anymore and I think that is because the lines between good and evil are very blurred for most of us.

God have mercy on us all.

PS. I'd like Mr. Shiavo to have the guts to appear on the O'Reilly or Hannity and Colmes shows. Larry King is a master at softball stuff. Must be all those wives.

5 posted on 10/26/2003 9:22:11 AM PST by american colleen
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Reply 4.
6 posted on 10/26/2003 9:23:58 AM PST by First_Salute (God save our democratic-republican government, from a government by judiciary.)
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To: NYer; Budge; Pegita; cyn; Ladysmith; Calpernia; Babalu; floriduh voter; dandelion; PleaseNoMore; ...
Anybody here get the St. Petersburg Times or have access to the online version? There is an interesting letter from a close friend of Terri's that is a real slam on Michael that was supposedly published there. The link was sent to me by PeyersPatches and we are trying to confirm it before posting the letter here. If anyone can find and confirm, one of us will post the letter. Also, I sent a letter to Terri's friend at the email address that was given where it was posted. Will let y'all know if there's a reply. We cannot let this dirtbag get away with this crap. Controling, manipulative people are usually very good performers.
7 posted on 10/26/2003 9:50:46 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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I emailed the friend as well - hoping she/he replies quickly!
8 posted on 10/26/2003 9:56:34 AM PST by PeyersPatches
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I don't see anything positive in today's online letters.
Link:
http://www.sptimes.com/Opinion.shtml

I NEVER buy the St. Pete Times, so don't know if the letter to which you refer is in print.
9 posted on 10/26/2003 10:02:43 AM PST by windchime
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Well the folks who have been sitting on the fence because they didn't know what to believe have direction now. The Aclu has stepped in so maybe they will turn right.
10 posted on 10/26/2003 10:05:39 AM PST by CindyDawg (All the above is JUST my opinion :'))
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To: windchime
Don't know if it is today's paper, necessarily.

Sending FReepmail.

11 posted on 10/26/2003 10:07:33 AM PST by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: sweetliberty
Bumpity! Let's get the word out...
12 posted on 10/26/2003 10:08:13 AM PST by dandelion
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To: NYer
Thanks for the heads up!
13 posted on 10/26/2003 10:11:08 AM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: NYer
We need to counter this with photos of Terri and storeis of what she was like before her "accident". We should have someone interview people who knew her and pass that to the MEdia who have sympathy for Terri. Perhaps Sean Hannity would have her best friend on T.V. talking about the good old days. Put a human face on this person the left thinks is a vegetable.
14 posted on 10/26/2003 10:12:20 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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We need to counter this with photos of Terri and storeis of what she was like before her "accident". We should have someone interview people who knew her and pass that to the MEdia who have sympathy for Terri. Perhaps Sean Hannity would have her best friend on T.V. talking about the good old days. Put a human face on this person the left thinks is a vegetable.
15 posted on 10/26/2003 10:12:29 AM PST by Diva Betsy Ross ((were it not for the brave, there would be no land of the free -))
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Do yall know if the Florida boards for RNs, LVNs, and CNAs have been contacted about interviewing staff who have had or are currently in contact with Terri?
16 posted on 10/26/2003 10:26:27 AM PST by CindyDawg (All the above is JUST my opinion :'))
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To: sweetliberty
I agree with you Libby. Michael Schiavo ought to be FULLY EXPOSED for the murdering, dishonest creep that he is!! So should Judge Greer. He's not fit to be sitting on the bench. Impeachment would be in order for that POS!!!
17 posted on 10/26/2003 10:34:23 AM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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Ping
18 posted on 10/26/2003 10:34:34 AM PST by diamond6 ("Everyone who is for abortion HAS been born." Ronald Reagan)
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To: CindyDawg
We should ALL try to be on the lines calling into LKL and really put Schiavo on the spot with our questions. I want to make his hour an hour in the "Hot seat"!!
19 posted on 10/26/2003 10:39:44 AM PST by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks belong South)
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To: NYer
I wonder who is orchestrating this PR blitz for Death Inc.

With the ACLU on board the media, of course, will now stand with them.

Only question is; will the people be fooled?

20 posted on 10/26/2003 10:54:37 AM PST by isrul
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