[jennyp]

You're kidding, right? Did you miss the 20th century? China? The Soviet Union?

That's not atheism's fault. Blame Hegel & his vision of a grand historical process inexhorably working its way thru the world stage. Marx, Mussolini and Hitler all stood on Hegel's shoulders. (Marx & Hitler altered a lot of Hegel's system, while Mussolini was truer to the original vision.)

[jennyp]

Correction: inexhorably working its predictable way thru the world stage

[js1138]

Blame Hegel & his vision of a grand historical process inexhorably working its way thru the world stage.

I know of no "ism" that causes mass imprisonment and execution without asserting some grandious,inevitable goal.

The ism that celebrates means rather than the end and process rather than product is capitalism -- which I thought was consistent with conservatism. And -- gasp -- evolution.

[dangus]

>>>>You're kidding, right? Did you miss the 20th century? China? The Soviet Union?

>>That's not atheism's fault.

Yes it is. Atheism cannot offer an objection to genocide. Some atheists have belief systems independent of the definition of atheism which object to genocide.

If you cut the breaklines, it's hard to argue you're not responsible when the car crashes.