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I'm sure the Vanderbilts and The Rockefellers are delightful human beings. They just have no right to expect me to pay for their perscription drugs. Means testing is the only way to keep the major entitlement programs afloat. These cowards care only about the next election, not the future.

France is already struggling to pay it's pensioners on time. We are the seeing our future over there if we don't develop a back-bone and stare down the left on this issue.

1 posted on 10/09/2003 6:57:20 AM PDT by .cnI redruM
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2 posted on 10/09/2003 6:58:38 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: .cnI redruM
"I see stupid people"

LOL, good one.

3 posted on 10/09/2003 6:58:40 AM PDT by 1Old Pro (ESPN now has 4 little wimpy sissies left. I'm switching back to FOX.)
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To: .cnI redruM
What???

There isn't one person anywhere in this country that has the 'right' to steal from me so that they can purchase drugs.

The Greatest Generation = The Greatest Looters.
4 posted on 10/09/2003 7:00:16 AM PDT by JohnGalt (Attention Pseudocons: Wilsonianrepublic.com is still available)
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To: .cnI redruM
Who decided what weathy is though? When it came to tax cuts I went from working class to "wealthy". It's all in what ever agenda someone is promoting. Medications are too expensive. IMO ,if the FDA approves a medication and a problem develops , and no fraud occured then the RXs shouldn't be responsible. States have programs to assist the "needy" with meds. It's the people working who can not get affordable insurance that are being taken to the cleaners.
6 posted on 10/09/2003 7:08:39 AM PDT by CindyDawg
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To: .cnI redruM
Who needs RATS when you have RINOs??
8 posted on 10/09/2003 7:10:19 AM PDT by ApesForEvolution ("The only way evil triumphs is if good men do nothing" E. Burke)
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To: .cnI redruM
House conservatives sought unsuccessfully this week to convince the House to endorse cutting the cost of a Medicare prescription-drug benefit by requiring wealthy seniors to pay more of their own drug costs.

I think I have died and gone to Bizarro world.
When did the House "conservatives" become Marxists?

12 posted on 10/09/2003 7:14:19 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: .cnI redruM
Step right up and watch the great Federal sow sprout a few million more nipples on the belly! Still plenty of room - first come first serve!
13 posted on 10/09/2003 7:15:19 AM PDT by AD from SpringBay (We have the government we allow and deserve.)
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To: .cnI redruM; All
>>>>>>Mr. Flake said that had his motion passed, it would have "upset the apple cart in conference, and I've said all along if I can upset the apple cart, I would."

How ironic, the only intelligent, probative views on this entire issue are being espoused by a congressman named Flake.
14 posted on 10/09/2003 7:16:01 AM PDT by .cnI redruM (Zot me and my screen name gets even dorkier!)
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Means testing is the only way to keep the major entitlement programs afloat

Let me get this straight - - you are concerned about keeping entitlement programs "afloat"?
Personally, I would like to see them collapse under their own weight.

"Means testing" is just another form of Marxism. If I have to have my money confiscated by scumbag big government, I better be included when the free stuff (whore-politician vote-buying programs) gets distributed, no matter what my "means" are.

16 posted on 10/09/2003 7:21:25 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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"... Rep. Jeff Flake, the Arizona Republican who offered the motion, says the only way to hold down costs is for means-testing to exclude the wealthiest seniors from the new drug benefit altogether. ..."

I hate that this is going to happen, because the drug benefit I have since retiring from IBM is much better than this sorry mess. But there is another way to "means test" the benefit, and that is to make it taxable income. Fot those paying tax at the lowest rates, or not at all, the burden would be small. For the wealthy, it would be more substantial. And that part of the tax could be earmarked for return to the program.
21 posted on 10/09/2003 8:41:09 AM PDT by MainFrame65
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To: .cnI redruM
I'm sure the Vanderbilts and The Rockefellers are delightful human beings. They just have no right to expect me to pay for their perscription drugs. Means testing is the only way to keep the major entitlement programs afloat. These cowards care only about the next election, not the future.

Do you typically engage in class warfare BS?

Both the House bill and the Senate bill - which are now in conference - require that 65% of the cost will be paid out of general revenue, i.e. basically the income tax. Who pays the most income tax? That's right, the "wealthy".

I'm sure that the "wealthy" would be happy to pay for their own prescriptions if they were absolved from paying for everybody elses.

23 posted on 10/09/2003 9:00:26 AM PDT by jackbill
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