Crouse Delivers Speech at Princeton:A Conservative Critique of Feminism

Concerned Women for America ^ | 10/8/2003 | Dr. Crouse

[Little Bill]

I have sparred with Lorianne before, she is usually a one hit bandit.

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I have sparred with Lorianne before, she is usually a one hit bandit.

She's just another God-less shallow liberal.

[Lorianne]

Lorianne tries to paint an innocent portrait of herself as she tells us she only wants 'equity'.

Huh? Mind quoting me directly? What the hell are you talking about?

What more 'equity' do you need Loraine?!

None. But then, I never made this thread about ME personally, so I don't have to defend personal gripes I don't hold! Neat how that works, huh?

What is your grievance that still needs remedied to make women 'equal'??

Um, where did I say I have a grievance? I have no grievance personally. I haven't made my personal life an issue. Again, what the hell are you talking about?

All you feminists have now is propaganda to build your pity-me case. Being a feminist you are a member of the most corrupt morally empty union of self-centered narcissistic soul-less group think frauds that the world has ever known. You don't want equity, you want institutional discrimination against those you oppose and superiority under the law.

Whatever .... you seem intent on telling me what I want and what I believe. Hint: you don't know. Plus, this thread is NOT ABOUT ME and feminism is NOT ABOUT ME ... and I never claimed either was.

Taking it personal and ad hominem is a sure sign you have no cogent point to make.

Again, you don't know me and this thread is NOT ABOUT ME personally and I never claimed it was. I'm not the one making blanket claims about men or women.

Geez, what are some of you so afraid of? Democracy is rough and tumble, get a helmet! There has never ever been a time in history where things were perfect. There never will be!

Whine, whine, whine.

Hey, I don't like a lot of things in our society. Things can always be improved. But I accept that living in a democracy, things are NOT going to go my way all the time. People disagree. I'd still rather live in this country in this era, with the good and the bad than anyplace else or any other time.

The world is full of whiners. What's truly entertaining though is listening to whiners complain about the whiners. :) Hey, if you don't like our society, get involved to improve it ... or move to Iran! Problem solved.

[Lorianne]

And you beat your wife. You're one to talk.

[Lorianne]

You seem intent to make this thread about you personally no matter what.

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Whine, whine, whine.

You defined feminism nowadays perfectly.

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And you beat your wife. You're one to talk.

That's a reach. Your true feminist colors are showing - now I'm a wife beater because I oppose you. I'll bet you're single and stuffing yourself full of Bon Bons between keystrokes as your preach your religion of feminism to the world.

[Little Bill]

I am only a victim of what you seem to stand for. I would be happily enthralled to my ex if your bug had not bitten her. It ain't about me it is about thousands of men who have been enslaved by the feminist code, as I said before it isn't about me it is the wreckage that YOU leave behind, and then whine about for the rest of your lives.

[Snuffington]

There is one more element of "second wave feminism" that is becoming more and more obvious, and to my knowledge only Christina Hoff-Summers is making much issue about it. That is the war on boys. It affects women quite personally in a way most college-age women cannot fathom... some day you're quite likely to have a son.

[Lorianne]

Yeah, that's exactly right. Just like I'm a god-less liberal because you don't like my views. :)

Ad hominem attacks are meaningless but they are fun are they not?

Just remember ... I had to connect the dots for you. That doesn't make you look very intelligent.

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Just remember ... I had to connect the dots for you. That doesn't make you look very intelligent.

The fact that you label yourself as a feminist doesn't make you intelligent whatsoever. You're just a follower needing a group to hide in. Women need feminists like white folks need the KKK.

You couldn't connect dots let alone punch out chads in a Florida voting booth - why that would be a much too violent act for a feminist.

[MHGinTN]

I, as a past debater with Lorianne, will object to that specious assertion. Lorianne is pro-life and a much deeper thinker than you've discerned. Besides that ... I don't like posters insulting a Lady, and Lorianne is a Lady as proven over years of posting at FR that I've read.

[Lorianne]

Much of it yes, but not all.

It also describes people who search for the bad in everything and in everyone.

It descibes all lazy people need some catch-all boogey man to blame for everthing whether that be "men" or "feminism" or whatever.

Life is much more complex than that. Politics is more complex than that. Only lazy people blame everything they don't like in society on one thing.

[Lorianne]

As I said, ad hominems are great fun but ultimately meaningless. Hope you're enjoying yourself.

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I, as a past debater with Lorianne, will object to that specious assertion. Lorianne is pro-life and a much deeper thinker than you've discerned. Besides that ... I don't like posters insulting a Lady, and Lorianne is a Lady as proven over years of posting at FR that I've read.

Thank you for your opinion. I debated Lorianne before and she has never stayed on topic, point for point. I can count on Lorianne being present and promoting feminism in any thread that describes and reveals feminism for what it is. Lorianne may be pro-life, but she is not pro-family. She is hardly a lady in calling me a "wife beater".

[Lorianne]

Thank you MHG. We don't always agree but you've always debated above board. I respect that.

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Thank you MHG. We don't always agree but you've always debated above board. I respect that.

Now, only if you could emulate that as well.

[Lorianne]

Ok I take it back but you do beat your dog and abandon kittens, and that's not nice.

That better?

I'd love to stay in trade more insults but I have to go now. See ya.

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I'd love to stay in trade more insults but I have to go now. See ya.

Running out for more Bon Bons?

[SpinyNorman]

The hatred for men is the saddest part. It's based on feelings of inferiority, and an inability to acknowledge the differences between men and women, let alone appreciate them.

If you have seen some of the bull dykes cruising Northampton, you would be hard pressed to find the differences between them and men!

Sorry I neglected to mention Hillary's alma mater! I have my hands full here though....