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Crouse Delivers Speech at Princeton:A Conservative Critique of Feminism
Concerned Women for America ^ | 10/8/2003 | Dr. Crouse

Posted on 10/08/2003 11:14:12 AM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS

A recent CBS poll revealed that three out of four women described the word feminist as an insult.

Another study found that the number of working women who believe that a career is as important as being a wife and mother has fallen 23 percent since the 1970s.

What has caused such a dramatic change in women's attitudes?

Cindy Crawford, the supermodel, dislikes the word "feminist." An interview in the September 2000 issue of George magazine explains, "The word feminist has such negative connotations to me."

Cindy is not alone. Experts agree that women are growing more and more uncomfortable with the current feminist movement.

What has happened to a movement that was supposed to make it possible for women to "have it all?"

Feminism has gone the wrong way, baby!

Feminism is out of step with mainstream women.

"Having it all" -- for most women -- doesn't mean: hatred for men, lesbianism, and radical politics. -- most women can't relate.

I could spend our time together giving you facts and data about the outcomes of modern feminism.

Instead, you can access and study that data in a report I wrote called, "Gaining Ground: A Profile of American Women in the Twentieth Century," which can be found on our website: www.cwfa.org. In that report you will find 100 years of data about women's well-being -- much of it previously unpublished.

But let's make it more relevant to your own lives. Your generation has seen the personal disaster of the feminist movement and so-called sexual freedom in the lives of the women you know. Many of you are yourselves children of divorce. Many of you have helped a friend deal with a surprise pregnancy -- perhaps even walked that friend through her abortion. STD's . . . broken hearts. . . the list could go on and on.

Let's ride the feminist wave backward a bit, and revisit the foundations of modern feminism, back to the Second Wave of the Sixties and Seventies. Let's look at the effect feminist ideals had on the lives of three founders of modern feminism. You know these women's writings; they are feminist icons. But how much do you know about their personal lives? As they say, "The proof is in the pudding."

Betty Friedan -- Friedan, the mother of the feminist movement, gave us "The Feminine Mystique" -- and the "problem that has no name." That problem - according to Friedan - is that women are victims. Being female means having delusions and false values and being forced to find fulfillment and identity through husbands and children. Friedan worked 9 hours a day - declaring that being a wife and mother was "not going to interfere with what I regarded as my real life." Even her friends describe Friedan as difficult, ill tempered, disagreeable, ego-driven, rude, nasty, self-serving and imperious. Unhappily married for 21 years, her three children had to undergo therapy to deal with what was called "the emotional fallout."

Gloria Steinem -- Steinem was the beauty queen of the feminist movement. Steinem, a Phi Beta Kappa graduate, was engaged to her college boyfriend. After breaking up with him and discovering that she was pregnant, she had an abortion. Later, Steinem founded Ms. Magazine and coined two phrases -- "reproductive freedom" and "pro-choice" -- bringing a brilliant sense of marketing to a movement that glossed over the realities of promiscuity and abortion and propelled so-called "sexual freedom" into the mainstream. Steinem famously declared that a woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle. She remained single until her 60s -- when she recently married a divorced man with grown children.

Germaine Greer -- Known as the diva of feminism, Germaine Greer is, like Gloria Steinem, now in her 60s. Greer has two books: "The Female Eunuch" kick-started her fame and "The Whole Woman," published recently basically repudiates everything Greer had said previously. Known for her bawdy diatribes, Greer preached that sexual liberation is the path to fulfillment. Greer has had "several" abortions -- leaving her unable to have children. She was married -- briefly -- for a week, during which time, she brags, she cheated on her husband 7 times. She has stooped in recent months to getting attention by being an apologist for female genital mutilation. Greer was married once for three weeks. She bragged that she cheated seven times that week. But at age 60, she mused: "The finest time in your life was when you fell asleep in someone's arms and woke up in the same position eight hours later. Sleeping in someone's arms is the prize." Inevitably, she sleeps alone.

What do these women -- and other disparate personalities like Patricia Ireland, Alice and Rebecca Walker, Hillary Clinton -- have in common? All of these women are Utopians. They scorn the lessons of history.

The First Wave of feminism won the right to vote and the right to own property.

The Second Wave won no-fault divorce and abortion on demand.

The Second Wave drove their political ideology, but its not just about being Democrats. I want you to think beyond partisan politics and see the motivating ideology at work.

Tonight, look beyond the surface debates over the issues that capture the headlines and roil the waters - abortion, gay rights, eating disorders, comparable worth -- and think about the animating spirit - the gravitational pull, if you will -- that keeps the waves crashing on the beach.

Perhaps that is why the Organization of Women Leaders has as part of its mission statement to rewrite the definition of feminism, transform people's perceptions, and challenge the conventions about women's roles. You are a group of remarkably gifted, talented young women. The goals and aspirations you have for your lives are exciting. And you will, just as you have planned, change the world in many ways. Living in American society today offers unprecedented opportunities for women. These opportunities were hard-won. We owe a great debt to the early feminists. Because of their work years ago, women today have incredible horizons.

But from my vantage point, having walked ahead of you through many of life's opportunities and challenges, I am equally aware of the pitfalls you face because modern feminism ignores the relationship between decisions/choices and consequences. For instance, more than 10 times as many women cohabitate now as when I graduated from college. And most have no idea that these relationships generally last a mere 18 months. Most are clueless about the fact that when living together turns into marriage it is almost always the guy who makes the decision and those marriages are 50% more likely to end in divorce than are the marriages where the couple did not live together before marriage.

So, the so-called sexual freedom -- a basic tenet of modern feminism -- has been disaster for women. Your generation recognizes that even better than mine. And, you are leading the effort to reconstruct feminism, to repackage, and reposition the movement into a Third Wave of feminism. I understand that OWL recently had a discussion about "what is feminism?" I am going to guess, from looking at your goals and activities as an organization, that you would broadly describe your agenda as falling under a rubric of empowering women. Frankly, most people would join you in that admirable goal. As you pursue that laudable goal, I want to challenge you NOT to repeat history.

To that end, tonight, let's review two historical 20th century Utopian experiments -- communism in the east and feminism in the west.

Origins

Both movements originated as a result of discontent with flawed social, economic and political systems.

Communist Discontent originated over the barely subsistence wages given to labor and the unequal distributions of wealth. Marx, in writing "Das Kapital," his monumental critique of capitalism, argued that capitalism was fundamentally exploitive and so hopelessly flawed that it would collapse under the weight of its contradictions. Marx offered a shining vision of an egalitarian socialistic society where the output of the community would share according a noble, altruistic principle: "from each according to his abilities to each according to his needs."

The feminist theorists of the mid 20th century also put forward a Utopian vision of the "good society" based on often-savage critiques of the existing progressive social order. Feminist Discontent originated in women's dependence on men and their unequal opportunities. The feminists' Utopia was a blend of sexual and economic equality, borrowed from earlier First Wave champions of women's rights, and social justice borrowed from the civil rights movement, which had just come into full flower with the passage of the Civil Rights Act in 1964.

Obstacles

Both movements rebelled against deeply entrenched obstacles.

It is worth noting that communism first came into being via the Bolshevik revolution in 1917 -- a rebellion NOT against a system of free market capitalism -- but against the dictatorial monarchy of Tsar Nicholas II.

The Marxist rebellion, then, was against a dictatorship and a cruelly class-stratified society; it was an attempt to end poverty. To communist thinkers, once the workers' paradise was fully established, poverty would disappear and the temporary dictatorship required by the transition to socialism would become unnecessary and the state would wither away.

The feminist revolution rebelled against inequality and the domination of patriarchy. To feminist thinkers, the great obstacle to progress toward a sexless, egalitarian society- where women could be free to realize the fulfillment of their heart's desires-was patriarchy and all elements of the social order that supported it, particularly marriage and religion. The males in society had to be reeducated as to their proper roles relating to women and, where necessary, coerced into letting women pursue their professions on a "level playing field." In the event that sexual activity resulted in an unwanted pregnancy, abortion on demand would be readily available. In those instances where a woman chose to have children, institutional arrangements had to be put in place so that the rearing of those children would not be burdensome or interfere with career aspirations.

Note that in both of these systems of thought, the source of the problems-the obstacles to progress-were faulty institutional arrangements, factors external to the individual. Defective institutions produced defective behavior that produced negative outcomes. The solution was not individual moral accountability for greed, oppression, and exploitation. The solution was to change the institutional arrangements, which would then produce positive behavior and outcomes.

Outcomes

Who is not inspired by the thought of an egalitarian society, where an equal distribution of wealth, power and influence is the norm . . . and NOT a mere utopian dream? Who is not inspired by the elimination of poverty? The elimination of patriarchy?

But, everywhere that Communism has ruled, it has been via a totalitarian regime established by force, never by free elections. As Mao famously said, "All power comes from the barrel of a gun." Well, let us visit Utopia and see the outcomes. Let us ask the residents of Russia, China, Cuba, North Korea, Vietnam, and Cambodia.

Stalin is quoted as having said, "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." Utopian schemes produce a lot of statistics.

Let's try to grasp those statistics:

How ironic. Marx had promised: Workers of the world unite; you have nothing to lose but your chains.

It didn't work out quite that way.

The Marxist rhetoric was high sounding and noble, but in the forced labor camps, individuals are insignificant and expendable.

How does this relate to feminism? We are confronted with another utopian ideal, whose animating principles ---- women's rights, sexual equality, and the fulfillment of women's potential- are high-sounding and noble.

But like the tragic irony of communism, feminist ideals have betrayed us and produced massive damage both to women and to their children:

How is possible to start out with high sounding, noble ideals and end up with so much wretchedness? What are we to learn for the examination of these two massive Utopian experiments? There are two sources of difficulty.

The first is metaphysical: the origin and nature of evil. I've already alluded to this issue by my observation that both of these systems of thought ascribed negative, evil outcomes as being the result of faulty institutional arrangements external to the individual.

The second source of difficulty is the fact that you cannot ignore nature, specifically human nature.

The Utopians deny the fact that human nature makes demands on all of us -- that there are realities that we all have to deal with in life. They naively believe that they can shape the world to fit their utopian vision. They want a world where they can control both their actions and the consequences of their actions.

But of course, choices do have consequences and we have to lie with them - for good or ill. We frequently use that phrase when we want to emphasize avoiding negative consequences. But tonight, I want to emphasize to you, that there is a tried and true path to positive consequences in your life. Not to Utopia - but to a life of fulfillment and positive accomplishment that benefits both you and society.

I chose a different path than Gloria Steinem, Betty Freidan, and Germaine Greer. But my circumstances were not all that different; nor were the ambitions and inner drive any less compelling. I want to share my story because your generation needs to hear from someone in my generation how you CAN just about have it all.

THEN ALONG CAME GIL

Gil Crouse decided that he wanted me for his wife and he set about to win my heart.

THEN ALONG CAME KIDS

From this brief overview, you can see that the things motivating me were not different from Betty, Gloria or Germaine. You can also see the different values, priorities, and the different choices we made and the different outcomes. All four of us started out with the same hard-driving ambition, but we had different priorities and different goals.

WHAT MADE THE DIFFERENCE?

What do I think is wrong with feminism? I think somewhere along the way, feminism lost its way. The movement forgot that "having it all" included the personal dimension. Life is not just profession and career. Success is not measured JUST in paycheck and status.

The 2003 young businesswoman of the year, Gabrielle Molnar, explained that she didn't want to be called a feminist because feminism doesn't support the cause of women.

I couldn't have said it better myself. Feminism has lost sight of what it is that women REALLY want. Most women want to love and be loved. They want the freedom to be all they can be and they want to be treated with dignity and respect. They also want the opportunity to have meaningful careers and productive lives -- but most aren't willing for their ambition to harm their relationships or damage their children.

I'm grateful that you are working to change people's perceptions of women - bright, talented women have plenty of opportunities for professional growth today and you have more flexibility than the women who preceded you. What is needed most -- at this point in history -- is the chance to revel in being feminine and to relish a fulfilling personal life.

More power to you as you take all that into account as you redefine what it means to be a woman and what it means to "have it all."

I'd like to conclude with a brief story:

A couple of years ago, I was speaking at a liberal arts college convocation. The President of the college and I stood at the front of the auditorium watching the students as they arrived. He turned to me and said, "Janice, do you realize - THERE IS THE FUTURE OF AMERICA?"

I'm tremendously impressed by your ambition; by your talent and your dedication to excellence.

I admire your willingness to accept the challenges of leadership.

BECAUSE:

Tonight as I look out at you, I am very much aware that:

"YOU ARE THE FUTURE OF AMERICA."

May God bless you and, through you, may God bless America.


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To: disclaimer
I have sparred with Lorianne before, she is usually a one hit bandit.
61 posted on 10/08/2003 8:00:50 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Little Bill
I have sparred with Lorianne before, she is usually a one hit bandit.

She's just another God-less shallow liberal.

62 posted on 10/08/2003 8:04:47 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Lorianne tries to paint an innocent portrait of herself as she tells us she only wants 'equity'.

Huh? Mind quoting me directly? What the hell are you talking about?

What more 'equity' do you need Loraine?!

None. But then, I never made this thread about ME personally, so I don't have to defend personal gripes I don't hold! Neat how that works, huh?

What is your grievance that still needs remedied to make women 'equal'??

Um, where did I say I have a grievance? I have no grievance personally. I haven't made my personal life an issue. Again, what the hell are you talking about?

All you feminists have now is propaganda to build your pity-me case. Being a feminist you are a member of the most corrupt morally empty union of self-centered narcissistic soul-less group think frauds that the world has ever known. You don't want equity, you want institutional discrimination against those you oppose and superiority under the law.

Whatever .... you seem intent on telling me what I want and what I believe. Hint: you don't know. Plus, this thread is NOT ABOUT ME and feminism is NOT ABOUT ME ... and I never claimed either was.

Taking it personal and ad hominem is a sure sign you have no cogent point to make.

Again, you don't know me and this thread is NOT ABOUT ME personally and I never claimed it was. I'm not the one making blanket claims about men or women.

Geez, what are some of you so afraid of? Democracy is rough and tumble, get a helmet! There has never ever been a time in history where things were perfect. There never will be!

Whine, whine, whine.

Hey, I don't like a lot of things in our society. Things can always be improved. But I accept that living in a democracy, things are NOT going to go my way all the time. People disagree. I'd still rather live in this country in this era, with the good and the bad than anyplace else or any other time.

The world is full of whiners. What's truly entertaining though is listening to whiners complain about the whiners. :) Hey, if you don't like our society, get involved to improve it ... or move to Iran! Problem solved.

63 posted on 10/08/2003 8:20:10 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: disclaimer
And you beat your wife. You're one to talk.
64 posted on 10/08/2003 8:21:08 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Little Bill
You seem intent to make this thread about you personally no matter what.
65 posted on 10/08/2003 8:22:43 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Whine, whine, whine.

You defined feminism nowadays perfectly.

66 posted on 10/08/2003 8:26:12 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Lorianne
And you beat your wife. You're one to talk.

That's a reach. Your true feminist colors are showing - now I'm a wife beater because I oppose you. I'll bet you're single and stuffing yourself full of Bon Bons between keystrokes as your preach your religion of feminism to the world.

67 posted on 10/08/2003 8:32:25 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: Lorianne
I am only a victim of what you seem to stand for. I would be happily enthralled to my ex if your bug had not bitten her. It ain't about me it is about thousands of men who have been enslaved by the feminist code, as I said before it isn't about me it is the wreckage that YOU leave behind, and then whine about for the rest of your lives.
68 posted on 10/08/2003 8:34:41 PM PDT by Little Bill (No Rats, A.N.S.W.E.R (WWP) is a commie front!!!!,)
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To: Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
There is one more element of "second wave feminism" that is becoming more and more obvious, and to my knowledge only Christina Hoff-Summers is making much issue about it. That is the war on boys. It affects women quite personally in a way most college-age women cannot fathom... some day you're quite likely to have a son.
69 posted on 10/08/2003 8:37:20 PM PDT by Snuffington
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To: disclaimer
Yeah, that's exactly right. Just like I'm a god-less liberal because you don't like my views. :)

Ad hominem attacks are meaningless but they are fun are they not?

Just remember ... I had to connect the dots for you. That doesn't make you look very intelligent.

70 posted on 10/08/2003 8:40:14 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Just remember ... I had to connect the dots for you. That doesn't make you look very intelligent.

The fact that you label yourself as a feminist doesn't make you intelligent whatsoever. You're just a follower needing a group to hide in. Women need feminists like white folks need the KKK.

You couldn't connect dots let alone punch out chads in a Florida voting booth - why that would be a much too violent act for a feminist.

71 posted on 10/08/2003 8:46:45 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
I, as a past debater with Lorianne, will object to that specious assertion. Lorianne is pro-life and a much deeper thinker than you've discerned. Besides that ... I don't like posters insulting a Lady, and Lorianne is a Lady as proven over years of posting at FR that I've read.
72 posted on 10/08/2003 8:49:14 PM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: disclaimer
Much of it yes, but not all.

It also describes people who search for the bad in everything and in everyone.

It descibes all lazy people need some catch-all boogey man to blame for everthing whether that be "men" or "feminism" or whatever.

Life is much more complex than that. Politics is more complex than that. Only lazy people blame everything they don't like in society on one thing.
73 posted on 10/08/2003 8:53:17 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: disclaimer
As I said, ad hominems are great fun but ultimately meaningless. Hope you're enjoying yourself.
74 posted on 10/08/2003 8:55:23 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: MHGinTN
I, as a past debater with Lorianne, will object to that specious assertion. Lorianne is pro-life and a much deeper thinker than you've discerned. Besides that ... I don't like posters insulting a Lady, and Lorianne is a Lady as proven over years of posting at FR that I've read.

Thank you for your opinion. I debated Lorianne before and she has never stayed on topic, point for point. I can count on Lorianne being present and promoting feminism in any thread that describes and reveals feminism for what it is. Lorianne may be pro-life, but she is not pro-family. She is hardly a lady in calling me a "wife beater".

75 posted on 10/08/2003 8:57:06 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: MHGinTN
Thank you MHG. We don't always agree but you've always debated above board. I respect that.
76 posted on 10/08/2003 8:57:55 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
Thank you MHG. We don't always agree but you've always debated above board. I respect that.

Now, only if you could emulate that as well.

77 posted on 10/08/2003 8:59:55 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: disclaimer
Ok I take it back but you do beat your dog and abandon kittens, and that's not nice.

That better?

I'd love to stay in trade more insults but I have to go now. See ya.
78 posted on 10/08/2003 9:02:50 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: Lorianne
I'd love to stay in trade more insults but I have to go now. See ya.

Running out for more Bon Bons?

79 posted on 10/08/2003 9:09:29 PM PDT by disclaimer
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To: jimt
The hatred for men is the saddest part. It's based on feelings of inferiority, and an inability to acknowledge the differences between men and women, let alone appreciate them.

If you have seen some of the bull dykes cruising Northampton, you would be hard pressed to find the differences between them and men!

Sorry I neglected to mention Hillary's alma mater! I have my hands full here though....

80 posted on 10/09/2003 5:48:50 AM PDT by SpinyNorman
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