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To: tictoc
so what you're saying is i'm lying, but you don't have the time to do a point by point takedown?
ok. how about just one point?

am i lying in this message too?
70 posted on 10/08/2003 3:03:16 AM PDT by joe032783 (Views of a Muslim)
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To: joe032783
Two-for-one deal today :-)

that's basically what happened to muhammad and the muslims of the time. they were being persecuted and tortured in mekka, for saying there was one god instead of many.

Lie #1.

Muhammad made a pest of himself but no one tried to kill him, no one tortured him, no one even punched him in the face. Same for his few followers in Mecca.

as a matter of fact, there were other jews at the time who did not break their alliance made with the muslims. they weren't harmed for being jewish.

Lie #2.

Muhammad's modus operandi, later imitated by Hitler, was simple. Wait until a Jew looks at you funny, then kill the men, sell the women and children into slavery (keeping the prettiest one for yourself and raping her that same evening), and use the assets of the Jews to finance your military expansion. In keeping with Muhammad's will, any Jews still left alive in the hijaz (the Arab peninsula) were expelled right after his death. And ever since, the hijaz has been judenrein. So much for the vaunted Islamic tolerance.

I know you're going to come back now with a tiresome defense, and we could go on for a few more back-and-forths. But I am not best qualified to do this, nor do I have the time. If you are truly looking for a worthy opponent, then go toe-to-toe with the ex-Muslims on faithfreedom.org (if you can; the URL is blocked in many Islamic countries).

But be warned: some of those who tried before you are now happily free apostates from Islam.

71 posted on 10/08/2003 3:41:48 AM PDT by tictoc
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To: joe032783
Koran 2:191
"Kill the disbelievers wherever we find them."
Koran 2:192
"But if they cease, Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful."
Koran 2:193
"And fight them on until there is no more Tumult or oppression, and there prevail justice and faith in Allah."
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English translation...
Koran 2:191 Kill all those who do not accept Islam where ever you may find them.
Koran 2:192 Unless they "repent" and accept Islam, then Allah will forgive them.
Koran 2:193 Otherwise fight all the unbelievers until they are all killed or accept faith in Allah.
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That's about the gist of it, right?
Your prophet is a flase prophet
and your holy book is a work of fiction.
Me and my family will all die
before we accept your "so-called" religion.
And I refuse to ask for Allah's "forgiveness".
72 posted on 10/08/2003 3:53:07 AM PDT by DefCon
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