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Jews for Allah
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Posted on 10/07/2003 12:05:35 PM PDT by SJackson



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Jews for Allah

It began as a joke, but it's now all too real. Adopting the same methodology of Jews for Jesus, a Web site is trying to tell you it's OK to be a Jew and follow Mohammed too.
 
by Alexandra Alter October 3, 2003
 
 

 
   

 

 


It began as sort of a joke. Mohamed Ghounem, 32, a mild-mannered, laid-off telecom worker who lives with his wife and daughter in suburban Connecticut, says it was the headline "Christ Converts to Islam" in the satirical newspaper The Onion that gave him the idea for his Web site, JewsforAllah.com.

At first, he laughed. Then he thought, "Why not?" Ghounem, whose religious pedigree includes a year of study at al-Azhar, the world's foremost institute of Sunni Islamic learning, said he felt frustrated by Muslims' lack of evangelical activity.

 

 

         
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Although Muslims are the world's fastest growing religious group with more than a billion adherents, they haven't been active enough in the battle for Jewish souls, Ghounem says. "Muslims haven't been doing it," he says. "The Muslim attitude, unfortunately, was 'Jews will never convert'."

But why target Jews, fellow monotheists whose faith is regarded by many as Islam's closest relative, and who the Quran describes as "People of the Book?" According to Ghounem's reasoning, to help the Jews, who remain dangerously ignorant of Mohammed's prophecy, and, in the long run, to turn Israel into an Islamic state.

Ghounem's goals, while seen by many as laughably far-fetched, have outraged leaders of Jewish counter-missionary groups who have already been fighting off Christian evangelists for decades and are wary of new attempts to convert Jews by aggressive or deceptive means.

A fervent admirer of Moishe Rosen, the founder of the messianic group Jews for Jesus, Ghounem has studied the groups' tactics and adopted their rhetoric. Like Jews for Jesus, an organization renowned for claiming a Jew who believes in Jesus is a "completed Jew," Ghounem says converts can maintain their Jewish cultural identity and observe Jewish holidays. He stresses Judaism and Islam's shared lineage of prophets and their similar dietary laws. And, in language almost identical to his Christian mentors, he insists that a true Jew follows Mohammed.

"If you're a true Torah follower, you'll believe in Mohammed, because he's predicted in the Torah," Ghounem says.

He also argues Jews can liberate themselves from the stringent demands of their religion by embracing Islam. "The holy Quran is a mercy to Jews," Ghounem says. "A lot of the things in the Torah, they're not going to have to do anymore."

The suggestion that Judaism's proximity to Islam justifies conversion remains odious to many, however, who see Ghounem's efforts as an affront to both religions. "What this guy is doing is a disservice to both faith systems," says Scott Hillman, executive director of Jews for Judaism, a group that seeks to educate and protect Jews from evangelical groups. "If he's going to say, 'Judaism is fulfilled by Islam,' he's saying Islam is incomplete."

Others say Ghounem is simply acting on the centuries-old impetus for people of all faiths to seek converts. Ibrahim Hooper of the Council for American Islamic Relations says Ghounem's objectives are in keeping with the principles of Islam, which encourages evangelism. "Muslims are encouraged to present accurate and balanced information about their faith to people of all religions," Hooper says.

Before he set out to convert Jews, Ghounem underwent a conversion of his own, from being an American college student who was mostly ignorant about his faith, to a self-fashioned Muslim scholar combating the pervasive myths about Islam he encountered on the Internet.

Ghounem, who immigrated to the United States from Egypt at age six, says his knowledge of Islam was tenuous when he graduated from Western Connecticut University with a degree in engineering. After returning to Cairo for a year to study at al-Azhar, Ghounem began spending hours a night in chat-room debates with Messianic Jews and Christians.

Unlike Jews for Jesus, Ghounem has no sponsors and no missionaries; he relies solely on the Internet for outreach. His Web site, which has had more than one million visitors since it was launched three years ago, has attracted about 200 "converts" who use it as a support group. It also provides a forum for Ghounem to address misconceptions about Islam, like the idea that Islam was spread by the sword, that the Quran is anti-Semitic, and that Jews and Muslims worship different gods.

Leaders of Jewish counter-missionary organizations claim they aren't overly concerned by Ghounem's efforts, saying the content of his Web site is so outrageous that most people don't pay attention. "This is a freak show, a side show," says Rabbi Tovia Singer, the head of Outreach Judaism, a group that works to bring converts back into the fold.

Moreover, they say Ghounem's background as an Egyptian-born Sunni Muslim probably doesn't help his quest for Jewish converts. "Ghounem wasn't a Jew in the first place. The Jews for Jesus founder was at least a convert who was Jewish," Hillman says.

Ghounem may not be Jewish, but the man who he has described as his alter ego, Yousef al Khattab, was born a Jew. The 35-year-old Brooklyn native, once known as Joseph Cohen, now lives in the Arab quarter of Jerusalem, where for the past three years he has operated the Web site JewstoIslam.com. Though the two men have never met, they monitor each other's progress and frequently chat online.

While Ghounem's site may invite ridicule, al Khattab's has been attacked with viruses, threats, and complaints. With links such as "My Heroes the Taliban" and "Freaky Jewish Stuff," which details such familiar anti-Semitic myths as rabbis sucking babies' blood, it is no wonder the site has been taken down several times.

As a former Jew preaching conversion amid the treacherous political and religious fault lines dividing Israel, al Khattab is a far more controversial figure than Ghounem. His transformation from being an ultra-Orthodox American Jew to a fundamentalist Muslim gives him license to preach a higher level of invective against Jews than his Gentile counterparts, says Singer, who says al Khattab threatened his life by posting his home address on the Internet and inviting Muslims to "visit him at his home."

"Jews who've converted to Islam are disenfranchised and self-hating," Singer says. "When you listen to them, you will hear virulent hatred toward Judaism. Their message is pregnant with hate."

But al Khattab, who denies ever having contact with Singer, says it is Judaism, rather than Jews, that he opposes, arguing that Jews have been misled by their rabbis. "Muslims are all inclusive and the whole message of Islam is to invite Jews, Nazis, capitalists, all religions and beliefs," al Khattab said in an e-mail.

Al Khattab, who has converted 11 Jews, said he was attracted by Islam's clear message of obedience to God. He seems unfazed by charges that he supports the goals of terrorists (he has called on Muslims to take up arms against Jews who don't convert), or by other Muslims' initial suspicions that he was a member of Mossad, the Israeli secret service.

"When we become Muslims we do this for the sake of Allah all mighty alone," he says. "We don't care if Muslims or non-Muslims approve of our goals."

Ghounem, who shares al Khattab's goal of turning Israel into an Islamic state, has chosen a different approach, however, taking careful stock of opinions about his Web site and often adjusting its content to appease critics. He took down a link about Sufism, the mystical strain of Islam, after some of his more orthodox fans complained Sufism is a fringe movement alien to Islam.

Ghounem said he recognizes converts risk alienation from both faiths, but hopes his Web site might lead to dialogue between Muslims and Jews. Well, that and one other thing. "My goal is to surpass Jews for Jesus, which I consider 100 percent inevitable," he said enthusiastically.



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1 posted on 10/07/2003 12:05:35 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: dennisw; Cachelot; Yehuda; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; ...
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The holy Quran is a mercy to Jews," Ghounem says. "A lot of the things in the Torah, they're not going to have to do anymore...he has called on Muslims to take up arms against Jews who don't convert

A minor variation on the standard pitch, convert or die, rather than just die.

2 posted on 10/07/2003 12:07:55 PM PDT by SJackson
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3 posted on 10/07/2003 12:08:28 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: SJackson
Jews for Allah.

Polar Bears for Heatwaves.

Environmentalists for Paving.

Democrats for Honest Government.

4 posted on 10/07/2003 12:08:28 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: SJackson
How about Muslims for Christ?

Somebody start it up.
5 posted on 10/07/2003 12:09:43 PM PDT by smith288 (Opinions expressed on this post are smith288s and not neccessarily those of Freerepublic.com)
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To: SJackson
Isn't that a Grateful Dead tune? No..wait, that's Blues for Allah. My bad.

"Blues For Allah"
Words by Robert Hunter; music by Jerry Garcia
Copyright Ice Nine Publishing; used by permission.

Arabian wind
The Needle's Eye is thin
The Ships of State sail on mirage
but drown in sand
in No-Man's Land
where ALLAH does command

What good is spilling
blood? It will not
grow a thing


"TASTE ETERNITY"
the sword sings Blues for ALLAH
In'sh'ALLAH


They lie where they fall
There's nothing more to say
The desert stars are bright tonight,
let's meet as friends
The flower of Islam
The fruit of Abraham


The thousand stories have
come round to one again
Arabian Night
our gods pursue their fight
What fatal flowers of
darkness spring from
seeds of light


Bird of Paradise - Fly
In white sky
Blues for ALLAH
In'sh'ALLAH


Let's see with our heart
these things our eyes have seen
and know the truth will still lie
somewhere in between


Under eternity
Under eternity
Under eternity
Blue
Bird of Paradise
Fly
In white sky
Under eternity
Blues
for ALLAH
In'sh'ALLAH


6 posted on 10/07/2003 12:10:37 PM PDT by Pest
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To: Lazamataz
Drunks 4 Prohibition!!!!
7 posted on 10/07/2003 12:10:37 PM PDT by BossLady
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To: SJackson

Blues for Allah?

8 posted on 10/07/2003 12:12:26 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: Lazamataz
Zionists for McKinney!
9 posted on 10/07/2003 12:16:02 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (Am Yisrael Chai!)
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To: swarthyguy
Most of the Jews for Allah work for their cause at the NY Slimes, Washington Compost or LA Slimes. Or they are rat members of congress.
10 posted on 10/07/2003 12:19:54 PM PDT by Grampa Dave (Fight Liberalism 24/7/365 for only 17 cents / day. Donate $5 monthly to Free Republic.)
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To: SJackson
Jews For Allah
Mohammedans For Zion
Christians For Krishna
Communists For Christ
Republicans For Hillary
DemocraticUndergrounders For FreeRepublic

11 posted on 10/07/2003 12:32:36 PM PDT by Alouette (Neocon Zionist Media Operative)
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To: Lazamataz
Jews for Allah.
Polar Bears for Heatwaves.
Environmentalists for Paving.
Democrats for Honest Government.

Laz ....... You are one piece of work!

12 posted on 10/07/2003 12:34:30 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: G.Mason
Laz ....... You are one piece of work!

What.....?

(coy grin)

13 posted on 10/07/2003 12:36:03 PM PDT by Lazamataz (I am the extended middle finger in the fist of life.)
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To: smith288
Too late, it's taken.

Muslims for Christ

14 posted on 10/07/2003 12:39:03 PM PDT by SJackson
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To: Alouette
Penguins for Global Warming.

Prostitutes for Fidelity.

Vegans for Beef Jerky.

15 posted on 10/07/2003 12:45:13 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Lazamataz
"What.....?
(coy grin)
"

Hee hee

16 posted on 10/07/2003 12:46:46 PM PDT by G.Mason (Lessons of life need not be fatal)
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To: No Blue States
Skinheads for Racial Diversity.

Liberals for Good News In Iraq.

17 posted on 10/07/2003 12:56:09 PM PDT by No Blue States
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To: SJackson
Zionist islamics
Jewish Nazis
common sense Liberals
Clintons with a concience
democrats with sense of shame
18 posted on 10/07/2003 12:58:49 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Virtue untested is innocence)
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To: Alouette
a long time a go in NYC's Cafe Feenjon, the Moroccan arab drummer, Ali HafiD, started sporting a "Goyim for Moses" shirt. Everyone got a laugh.
19 posted on 10/07/2003 12:58:54 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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Isn't that kind of like "Cows for McDonald's?"

Just damn.

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20 posted on 10/07/2003 1:00:06 PM PDT by mhking (When it rains it pours: I'm looking for a job again -- any offers or help: mhking@bellsouth.net)
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