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The Republican Party's Lack of Commitment To Conservatism
Covenant News ^ | 10/4/03 | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 10/05/2003 3:18:56 PM PDT by truthandlife

If there is anyone left who truly believes the Republican Party is committed to genuine conservative principles, the candidacy of bodybuilder/actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to be California's next governor should be enough to set the record straight.

Despite Schwarzenegger's extreme liberal views, he has won praise from Republicans nationwide. On virtually every issue worth noting, Schwarzenegger comes down on the left side of the page.

Schwarzenegger is pro-abortion, pro-homosexual rights, pro-gun control, pro-green, and pro-illegal immigration. He even said that Clinton's impeachment made him "ashamed" to call himself a Republican.

Furthermore, Schwarzenegger's immoral escapades make even Bill Clinton look unsoiled. He once bragged in an Oui magazine interview about participating in sex orgies, not to mention his repeated admissions of drug use.

In spite of his personal and philosophical discrepancies, Schwarzenegger has received accolades from notable conservatives such as Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, and Pat Robertson, not to mention practically the entire national Republican hierarchy.

Writing for The New York Times, Frank Rich correctly observed, "It is hilarious to watch conservatives, the same conservatives who often decry phony Hollywood liberals and their followers, betray their own inviolate principles to bask in Arnold's hulking movie-star aura so that they might possibly gain a nominal Republican victory in the bargain."

By supporting a liberal such as Arnold Schwarzenegger, Republicans demonstrate that they have no real loyalty to conservative principles. Beyond that, by supporting Schwarzenegger, they have turned their backs on a true conservative gubernatorial candidate, Tom McClintock.

However, people who are paying attention know that this is the rule, not the exception, for the Republican Party. In race after race, Republican heavyweights will throw their support behind a liberal candidate and will starve out a conservative candidate. This is not an accident or a coincidence. It is the party's plan A. The Republican Party no more desires conservatives in political office than the Democratic Party does, and people who think otherwise are only deceiving themselves.

At some point, conservatives must awaken to the reality that they do not have a political party in Washington, D.C., that represents them. They must, at some point, be willing to abandon the Republican Party and unite around a party and a candidate that will courageously and consistently promote their principles. Can I get a second for Judge Roy Moore and the Constitution Party?


TOPICS: Editorial
KEYWORDS: cagop; chuckbaldwin; conservatism; constitutionparty; gop; mcclintock; recall; republicans; rnc; schwarzenegger
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
The Constimatooshin Party is an oddball collection of cantankerous cranks

Sounds like a party of Freepers.

141 posted on 10/05/2003 11:00:12 PM PDT by My2Cents (Well...there you go again.)
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To: JohnnyZ
No, he doesnt know a neo-conservative from a Reagan Democrat, but there you go. People desperately trying to make the GOP a *minority party* by running off whichever crowd doesnt match their purist ideals 101%, even when they dont even understand the ideas they oppose.

I swear, I think there are some idiots who desperately *want* the GOP to lose, just so they can have the privilege of whining about socialism and saying "I told you so
... rather than handle the responsibility of power and realities of compromise and doing pragmatic politics.
143 posted on 10/06/2003 10:44:04 AM PDT by WOSG (DONT PUT CALI ON CRUZ CONTROL & VOTE YES ON 54!)
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To: BlackElk
You asked what Heinlein thought, here is your answer.

History does not record anywhere at any time a religion that has any rational basis. Religion is a crutch for people not strong enough to stand up to the unknown without help. But, like dandruff, most people do have a religion and spend time and money on it and seem to derive considerable pleasure from fiddling with it. -- Lazarus Long
146 posted on 10/06/2003 11:44:43 AM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: ETERNAL WARMING
We are typical of what the GOP used to stand for.

No you're not. You are one of the Religous Extremists who have hijacked the GOP.

I voted for Goldwater back when we didn't have to ask for the approval of a Theocrat before voting.

It's a shame that the Proof in Labeling Laws don't apply to politics. Otherwise you couldn't call yourself a Republican.

You Theocrats are frauds and a cancer on America.

147 posted on 10/06/2003 11:54:26 AM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: TonyRo76
Uh, ok LPM. If I read correctly, what you're saying is, "once we jettison all those darn conservatives, then our party can suck in a bunch of clueless, noodle-spined idiots with no inner convictions and then we'll be a BIG party that doesn't stand for anything!"

I never said anything "jettisoning all those darn conservatives".

We must jettison all those Religous Zealot Theocrats who are mascarading as Conservative Republicans.

148 posted on 10/06/2003 12:01:29 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: findingtruth
Translation: "Who cares if Schwartzenegger is pro-abortion, pro-sodomite, and anti-gun. The only thing that matters is that a Republican win."


149 posted on 10/06/2003 12:03:53 PM PDT by Protagoras (The only thing worse than drugs are the users here who support the WOD)
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To: DLfromthedesert
Why should the states have to get permission from the Feds to outlaw partial birth abortion, or to allow mothers to have INFORMED consent before having the procedure?

Because we have a Constitution that protects us from Extremist Religous Zealots.

150 posted on 10/06/2003 12:04:14 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: MichiganConservative
what warped religious agenda? Kicking prayer out of schools, even if it is a private, voluntary prayer among students?

Disallowing children to talk amongst themselves about Jesus while encouraging them to practice Islam for a month?

You and your children have a Right to all of those things. You are free to do all of them in a private school paid for with your money. But don't expect to come to a public school and use it as a forum for proselytizing the children of others.

Fighting for laws that say your daughter doesn't have to get your consent to get an abortion, even though she does to get an ear piercing?

Having a baby to care for is a life-long commitment, one that your daughter will have to live with long after you are no longer her legal guardian. She should not have to ask your permission on how to live the rest of her life. Comparing an abortion and an ear piercing is ridiculous.

If you were concerned about the possibilty of you daughter needing an abortion then you should have been a responsible parent and provided her birth control options.

151 posted on 10/06/2003 12:18:34 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: Ahban
Thank you I will.

Make sure you use plenty of bleach on your sheets. Can't have those robes getting dingy.
152 posted on 10/06/2003 12:24:07 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: LPM1888
Hmmm; I kinda, sorta remember a 10th amendment in that Constitution; as a true Republican, why would you want to give more power to the Judiciary?

Don't you think the citizens of the states should be able to make the laws that affect them?

153 posted on 10/06/2003 12:50:20 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: LPM1888
Oh, but it's OK for SIECUS and GLSEN to proselytize in the government schools.

I think you need a history lesson .... BIG TIME!!

154 posted on 10/06/2003 12:56:23 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: BlackElk
You should read Heinlein's "Revolt in 2100" to get a good feel for his predictions about the dangers of a Theocracy controlling America.
155 posted on 10/06/2003 12:56:27 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: LPM1888
No one is for a theocracy; just religious freedom.
156 posted on 10/06/2003 12:57:23 PM PDT by DLfromthedesert
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To: LPM1888
The GOP has always been about fiscal conservatism????? Always until 2000 and on, you mean, since they are spending my grandkids' money like it is going out of style.
157 posted on 10/06/2003 1:00:25 PM PDT by fortaydoos
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To: fortaydoos
The GOP has always been about fiscal conservatism????? Always until 2000 and on, you mean, since they are spending my grandkids' money like it is going out of style.

I am embarassed by the spending habits of the GOP since 2000. They have had their chance to show their "stuff" but they are setting themselves up for a reverse of the 1994 , 2000 and 2002 gains. Someday a I may be ashamed to admit to my grandchildren that I was a Republican.

158 posted on 10/06/2003 4:15:10 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: DLfromthedesert
No one is for a theocracy; just religious freedom.

You already have religious freedom, try another lie.

159 posted on 10/06/2003 4:16:39 PM PDT by LPM1888 (Freedom begins when you tell Mrs Grundy to go fly a kite)
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To: Javelina
You want links? Here are links. And these are just the top results from my Google search.

Supreme court outlaws prayer at high school football games

School sued for making children practice Islam

Ilana Mercer, a libertarian, talks about the 14th Amendment

160 posted on 10/06/2003 8:43:09 PM PDT by MichiganConservative (Repeal the welfare state and the 14th, 16th, and 17th Amendments.)
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