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McClintock Can't Win? Do the Math Again
Perspicacity & Paradigms Online ^ | October 1, 2003 | Rand Green

Posted on 10/03/2003 12:48:20 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy

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To: Princeliberty
Haynes is the one with the ego problem not McClintock.

No kidding.

181 posted on 10/03/2003 10:13:07 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: joyce11111
The pressure is so fierce for Republicans to jump on the Schwarzenegger bandwagon. It's just amazing. Some people are supporting Arnold out of fear. Some folks are ashamed to be Republicans. Some just have no conscience.
182 posted on 10/03/2003 10:15:49 PM PDT by Saundra Duffy (For victory & freedom!!!)
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To: Houmatt
And a damned shame, that his supporters refuse to even glance at, let alone admit to reality.
183 posted on 10/03/2003 10:17:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Saundra Duffy
If everyone who has said that htey would like to vote for McClintock but he can't win would vote for McClintock, then he would have a serious chance to win. But too many McClintock supporters have already preemptively surrendered to the Schwarzenegger machine.
184 posted on 10/03/2003 10:33:21 PM PDT by TBP
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To: Saundra Duffy
Did you take a look at his sign-up date?

Hb
185 posted on 10/03/2003 10:47:30 PM PDT by Hoverbug
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To: Saundra Duffy
Yeah, and if you stand in a pumpkin patch on Halloween, you can see the Great Pumpkin, he will give you all kinds of presents, and maybe, you can go to Ooompa-Loompa land!

I hear Dennis Kuchinch is looking for starry eyed optimists with no sense of reality, call him on Wednesday...

186 posted on 10/03/2003 10:50:58 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Crummy Buttons? Bleah!)
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To: My2Cents
The article is assuminng; if Arnold got out of the race, then all of his votes would then go to McClintock. Not so.
187 posted on 10/03/2003 10:52:36 PM PDT by GOP-Pat
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To: IpaqMan
After reading the email from Ray Haynes about McC's ego and stubborn streak,

Yes. It would be terrible to have a Republican governor with a stubborn streak. What California needs is a spineless Republican governor who will sign every piece of legislation the DemocRAT legislature puts on is desk.

Oh, happy day.

188 posted on 10/03/2003 10:53:17 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Saundra Duffy
Funny, you probably make fun of Libertarians when they get 5% of a local vote.

Tom destroyed his future, his career as a politician (he has only ever been a politician hasn't he? Maybe its time for him to get a real job in the real world, off the public dime)

Good luck Tuesday, BTW, the world isn't flat...

189 posted on 10/03/2003 10:58:31 PM PDT by Central Scrutiniser (Crummy Buttons? Bleah!)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The pressure is so fierce for Republicans to jump on the Schwarzenegger bandwagon. It's just amazing. Some people are supporting Arnold out of fear. Some folks are ashamed to be Republicans. Some just have no conscience.

There is a bit of a self-esteem issue as well. Some Republicans have such a low self-worth quotient after losing so many political contests in California that they are willing to sacrifice principles for immediate self-satisfaction. They're a bunch of Joycelyn Elders Republicans.

190 posted on 10/03/2003 11:06:41 PM PDT by Texas Eagle
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To: Wheee The People
Ahhhhh the sweet taste of Kool-aid. Drink it, it's good for you, said Jim Jones....

One-liners are so much easier than thinking, huh?

191 posted on 10/03/2003 11:17:20 PM PDT by L.N. Smithee (LEADERS WANTED! No experience, principles nec., will train; Showbiz Stardom a PLUS! Call Calif. GOP)
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To: Hildy
If the Republican leadership had come out early for TM, that would have guaranteed his loss.

I don't believe so. If the party had come out for ANYONE early on, they would have been destroyed by the media and the recall would probably fail. Some people are unfortunate enough to live in states that just don't vote for very conservative people (for the most part) and I'm afraid CA is one of those states. It's better to have a moderate Rep win in a Dem state, than to always have libs control it. Arnold just may help President Bush win in CA next year. I don't think McClintock could make that happen.

The only conservatives elected in CA in recent years are Congressmen who happen to be in a few conservative districts. Conservatives don't win statewide elections in CA--at least they haven't for a long time.

192 posted on 10/03/2003 11:17:49 PM PDT by GOP-Pat
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To: speekinout
Baloney. I've been saying for weeks that Tom doesn't have the personal qualities necessary to be an effective governor.

I've been saying the same thing. But the anti-abortion folks only care about one issue. They won't listen to any other arguments.

How said---especially since the Governor of CA can't do a thing about abortion. I'm against abortion myself, but I would NEVER let that be my only guide for voting.

193 posted on 10/03/2003 11:27:38 PM PDT by GOP-Pat
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To: GOP-Pat
How said.

Should be How sad.

194 posted on 10/03/2003 11:33:23 PM PDT by GOP-Pat
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To: GrandMoM
"....surely Tom is closer to your beliefs than Arnold who is Pro-Abortion, Pro-Homosexual could ever be."

You just made my point. Arnold is closer to my beliefs than Bustamonte. No one fits perfectly to what I want in a politician. And no one ever will. A perfect politician, for example, would post on the FR daily. A perfect politician would encourage input from the FR openly. A perfect politician would drop in on the BET forum daily as well, and perhaps the C-Span forum-- spending an hour at each place, six days a week. A perfect politician would have nothing in his/her past that is politically embarassing. I would vote for God in a heartbeat, but He's the only one not running for CA governor.

The good news is that the conservative base is defiant enough to let the RINOs realise that their support is not to be taken for granted. You need that once in a while, or you become a door mat for whichever party is in power. [I don't think this is the ideal time, however, to protest vote. California is in danger of becoming our Kosovo. The stakes are far too high.]

Part of Clinton's strategy here with the smut on Arnold is that every slime attack is a fake lifeline for McClintock. McClintock grabs the lifeline and 'snap', it breaks on him. Then there's another lifeline dangling out there.
195 posted on 10/04/2003 2:09:54 AM PDT by Arthur Wildfire! March
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To: Nachum
When Arnold wins big, and then later does bad things as governor it won't be my fault.
196 posted on 10/04/2003 5:17:29 AM PDT by DB (©)
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To: Saundra Duffy
The smell of desperation in the air from the McWampumites like you is much like the smell of my 3 year old cousin filling his Underoos. Its a palpable stench, its a mess to clean up, and its ultimately useless.

So keep up the whining and crying, please!

197 posted on 10/04/2003 5:20:51 AM PDT by strela (Will Tom McClintock have to "make a re$ervation" to pay back all that Indian money?)
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To: autoresponder
What's the prize for McClictock's 3rd place finish, btw ?? ...

198 posted on 10/04/2003 6:32:53 AM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Check out the Texas Chicken D 'RATS!: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/keyword/Redistricting)
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To: Torie
I am not at all surprised by who you chose to vote for. Was there ever really a doubt?
199 posted on 10/04/2003 6:56:28 AM PDT by 4Freedom (America is no longer the 'Land of Opportunity', it's the 'Land of Illegal Alien Opportunists'!!!)
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To: MeeknMing
What's the prize for McClictock's . . . finish

The abiding respect of honest, honorable, and faithful conservatives who would not barter their votes for mere political expediency or sacrifice fundamental virtues and truths that form the living core of the conservative soul, without which there is no distinguishing between the Republican Party and its corrupt and decaying Democrat adversary.

May the chains of ignominy rest lightly but chafingly on your wretched worn ankles, quisling.

200 posted on 10/04/2003 7:10:52 AM PDT by Kevin Curry
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