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California: Arnold Fesses Up and People Are Mad -- at the Messenger
Los Angeles Times ^ | October 3, 2003 | Steve Lopez

Posted on 10/03/2003 6:57:13 AM PDT by John Jorsett

SAN DIEGO — Reports of Arnold Schwarzenegger's sexual mistreatment and humiliation of women drew outrage here Thursday on the campaign trail.

Outrage at the Los Angeles Times, not at Arnold.

I would have thought that at a gathering of conservatives, who rightly vilified President Bill Clinton for his raunchy scandal and nationally televised lies, there'd at least be some finger-wagging at Arnold.

Not a chance with the Teflon Terminator.

In San Diego, one Arnold supporter after another bashed The Times, and the beating continued at a second appearance in Costa Mesa, where hundreds of Arnold supporters roundly booed the mere mention of the paper.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; groper; latimes; recall; schwarzenegger
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To: JoeSchem
Sorry if you thought I trivialized it. I take it seriously. Men should be slapped or kneed in the groin if they pull that kind of stunt.

I phrased it as I did because, although boorish and wrong, it does not even compare to Clinton's sexual assaults. The RATS allowed raped. We are not going to let them win on this one.

61 posted on 10/03/2003 7:31:44 PM PDT by doug from upland (Why did DemocRATS allow a perjuring rapist to remain in the Oval Office?)
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To: 68 grunt
I told you not to ever ping me.
62 posted on 10/03/2003 7:35:42 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Vote Sanity! Vote McClintock!)
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To: fqued; Kevin Curry
Yeah, I cant believe on FR some bozo is repeating the 'it's all about sex' lie about Clinton.

Wake me up when they find Arnold selling secrets to China for illegal campaign contributions.
63 posted on 10/03/2003 7:38:36 PM PDT by WOSG (DONT PUT CALI ON CRUZ CONTROL & VOTE YES ON 54!)
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To: KellyAdmirer; Kevin Curry
Arnie is the only thing happening, contrary to Tommy McWho saying over and over that voters like him more...he will be written about in textbooks on ordinary delusions and cognitive dissonance, along with a pic of Kevvy for comic relief ;-)
64 posted on 10/03/2003 7:46:21 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: KellyAdmirer
Interesting consequences to a really incompetent smear job.

Desperate, actually. It is clear to me that the Times had this story waiting, waiting for one of the women to say more, waiting to get more women on the story, waiting for Davis' or Cruz' numbers to increase. Waiting for anything. But Dirt Dump Day is the Thursday before the election and if they were going to torpedo Arnold's candidacy, they had to do it yesterday.

65 posted on 10/03/2003 7:54:11 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: Stone Mountain
He didn't admit anything until the LA Times printed their story.

Brilliant strategy, actually. Rumors are now floating that the LAT will try a follow-up piece with more women claiming to be groped. Or talked rude to. Or not told they are pretty. Whatever.

Anyway, by doing a blanket, non-specific apology, he forstalls any future allegations.

As a sideline, it will be interesting to see the LAT squirm when they release another hit piece in 4 days even though they claim that sourcing the first story was why it was in the can 7 weeks and just happened to be released on Dirt Dump Day.

The last story the LA Times mentioned occured in 2000.

IIRC, that's the one that was contradicted by other eyewitnesses.

66 posted on 10/03/2003 8:04:17 PM PDT by AmishDude
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To: B Knotts
I'm no Schwarzenegger fan, to be sure. But I still am more than willing to excoriate the L.A. Times for acting as an arm of the Democrat Party for running these stories at the last minute of the campaign. Mulholland couldn't have scripted their behavior better if he were himself the publisher. The L.A. Times is finished as a serious newspaper, as far as I'm concerned.

Dittos ... they are only 'serious' about indoctrination, not about information. LA Slimes (and our own local unamerican spaceman (Austin TX)) have shown their true biased colors.

67 posted on 10/03/2003 8:04:52 PM PDT by WOSG (DONT PUT CALI ON CRUZ CONTROL & VOTE YES ON 54!)
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To: EternalVigilance
Hi, friend,

Glad you're in West Virginia. We here in California are voting for a Republican who can win.

You have no idea of what calumny the Republican party would face if the recall people (having forced this recall) had forced the state to spend $65-70 million during a budget deficit crisis and it ended with no change in the government.

The purist conservatives got the Republicans into this mess, and the Republicans are now out there trying to salvage the reputation of the party by making sure a Republican is elected in this heavily Democrat state.

I'm out in my precinct stumping for Arnold, and he's a whole lot better than what we have now or what we would get if people vote their hearts instead of their heads.

68 posted on 10/03/2003 8:07:47 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Stone Mountain
The last story the LA Times mentioned occured in 2000.

Did you read the article? We did, and the Times mentioned below the charge that witnesses to the event say the woman interviewer came up to Arnold after the interview, cupped her breasts, said "What do you think of these?" and then sat in his lap.

Witnesses say she was then escorted out of the room by Arnold's security people.

69 posted on 10/03/2003 8:11:59 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
Ah, the recall is all the fault of the conservatives, and you all are cleaning up the mess---I see.

How wonderfully generous and noble of you!
70 posted on 10/03/2003 8:14:29 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (Vote Sanity! Vote McClintock!)
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To: JoeSchem
Men who grope have deep, serious psychological problems, and my guess is that this is just the tip of a very dysfunctional iceberg.

Yeah, they have the XY chromosome dysfunction.

71 posted on 10/03/2003 8:16:19 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: patriciaruth
Bump for Arnie!
72 posted on 10/03/2003 8:18:43 PM PDT by habs4ever
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To: Texas Eagle
Some of us there ARE conservatives. Now why do you suppose Steve Lopez, a Los Angeles Times liberal columnist sees a problem with conservatives gathering anywhere? Why is that an issue with him? I mean we don't have freedom of speech. But I see liberals do. They can slime us in their newspapers and we have to sit there and take it. Its funny how Lopez accuses Arnold and his supporters of being judgmental and throwing bricks at the Fourth Estate. Apparently the LAT can dish it out but they can't take it. Liberals don't want to meet us in the arena of ideas - they'd rather change the subject. Lopez threw in a zinger in accusing Arnold of not wanting to discuss the issues of concern to California but he overlooks the fact its his newspaper that's lowered itself to tabloid status in splashing a story about gropers on its front pages two days in a row. Talk about the Left being populated with Ken Starr wannabes.
73 posted on 10/03/2003 8:19:23 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: EternalVigilance
The recall is because of the purist conservatives, yes. Regular old Republicans like me did not want it. Do you deny this is true?

And yes, the old Republicans like me have endorsed Arnold (the Republican county chairmen's association and now the state Republican party) because we truly believe as much as we like Tom McClintock that he cannot win statewide.

You're in Democrat West Virginia, and lost by quite a margin to Jaye Rockefeller in the Senate race last year. This is what happens when you run purist conservatives in a state with a heavy Democrat majority.

So, if you think McClintock could win here, explain why your candidate lost last year. And also why the conservative lost in the New Jersey governor's race. And why Simon lost last year here? I sent money for all of them, but they all lost.

74 posted on 10/03/2003 8:27:01 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: Montfort
There is also the fact that the Clinton scandals were not serious because of sex. They were serious because they involved serious dishonesty and abuse of power.

Well said.

75 posted on 10/03/2003 8:30:31 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
Alan Keyes...the kiss of death.
What a loser.
76 posted on 10/03/2003 8:32:26 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: EternalVigilance
Quite a few folks on this forum have been exposed for the mindless hypocrits they are. These people are as inconsistent as they come, and are in reality no better than the Clinton Sucker Moms.
77 posted on 10/03/2003 8:33:20 PM PDT by NittanyLion (Character Counts)
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To: Kevin Curry
One is Democrat, the other is Republican. All other differences are mental fluff whipped up by the enablers of each boor.

Actually there are bigger differences.
Clinton's involved the abuse of one's office....and the powers of Govt...which is much worse than anything Arnold has been accused off.

78 posted on 10/03/2003 8:36:25 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: John Jorsett
conservatives, who rightly vilified President Bill Clinton for his raunchy scandal

I haven't heard this mentioned yet but when the slimes try to compare Arnold's sexcapades to Clinton's there is one MAJOR DIFFERENCE - Arnold's stuff is 20 - 30 years in the past. Clinktoon's crap was done while he was in office and one can trace his behavior all the way back to college. Arnold is not the same man today he was back then. He learned from his mistakes and became a better man. Compare Willy? There is no comparison. Slick is the same twisted scumbag he's always been.

Another point I have not heard yet is that the culture of the 70's was much different than the culture of today, particuarly in the body building and Hollywierd world. Things were not as politically correct as they are today. The FemNazi movement was in its infancy back then.

Why no one has mentioned these things yet is beyond me.

79 posted on 10/03/2003 8:40:15 PM PDT by slimer (i'm mad as hell and i'm not going to take it anymore!)
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To: goldstategop
Steve Lopez appears to be an especially smarmy and egregious media twerp.

Does the LAT have a breeding farm for these types?

80 posted on 10/03/2003 8:41:50 PM PDT by okie01 (www.ArmorforCongress.com...because Congress isn't for the morally halt and the mentally lame.)
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