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Tell the world. Don't let them forget. We can't afford to just sing louder while the train goes by.
1 posted on 10/02/2003 10:48:45 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback
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2 posted on 10/02/2003 10:49:49 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Free Republic--Heartland Values, Think Tank Intellect.)
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3 posted on 10/02/2003 10:50:23 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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4 posted on 10/02/2003 10:50:25 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Free Republic--Heartland Values, Think Tank Intellect.)
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Weren't the founders of Planned Parenthood all Eugenecists?
5 posted on 10/02/2003 10:58:50 AM PDT by sc2_ct
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The eugenics movement was quite populare in the first half to of the 20th century. Many prominent well-respected people supported the ideas and it was gaining more and more legitimacy until WWII when, the obvious comparison to Nazi though was unavoidable. Eugenics lost favor quickly.

We forget that many of our states had already enacted legislation to involuntarily sterilize people and worse was being planned.
6 posted on 10/02/2003 11:00:58 AM PDT by Lorianne
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Three generations of imbeciles is enough.

Wow! Holmes was as prescient as Nostradamus in his ability to foresee the rise to power of the Kennedy family.

7 posted on 10/02/2003 11:01:03 AM PDT by LouD (Official GOP Vigilante: Fair and Honest Elections - Or Else!)
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"Every child a planned child, every child a wanted child."

It'll build us all a brave new world.
12 posted on 10/02/2003 11:41:54 AM PDT by .cnI redruM ("We hang petty thieves, we elevate the great ones to public office." Aesop, 600BC)
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This is one of those hidden pieces of American history that is rarely discussed. Eugenics is an outcropping of humanism.
13 posted on 10/02/2003 11:45:12 AM PDT by Zack Nguyen
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A few years ago, I saw an article from the Northeast about some graduate student who'd
stumbled across a bunch of old, forgotten eugenics records during her research.
I may be confused, but I think the records were from that progressive state...Vermont.

Whether I got the state correct, it was interesting because the student did
track down some of the surviving victims of this system...but the most interesting
comment was about how
the article included a comment from a citizen who observed that one of the victims
had some close relative who'd produced three generations of low-IQ criminals...

I've got to check out this book to see if it discusses The Pioneer Fund, which I heard
mentioned as a funding device for eugenics supported (in part) by FDR.
15 posted on 10/02/2003 11:50:36 AM PDT by VOA
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Low IQs 'shouldn't have children' (Denmark)

19 posted on 10/02/2003 12:32:31 PM PDT by StriperSniper (The socialist revolution is almost complete.)
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I can't believe they left out Planned Parenthood's founder, Margaret Sanger - another Eugenics/Nazi...
20 posted on 10/02/2003 12:35:32 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks (<Tag>Something unspeakably clever</Tag>)
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28 posted on 10/02/2003 1:40:57 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Sing A Little Louder (Christians and the American Holocaust)

http://www.abortionfacts.com/literature/literature_909sl.asp

The following story entitled "Sing A Little Louder", told by an old weeping "Christian" man, holds a very important message for us today. May its words ring loud and clear, reminding all Christians everywhere the consequences of our [physical and spiritual] uninvolvement. May our L-rd G-d Almighty Who is Israel's Savior, Redeemer, and King, forgive us our sins, and deliver us from that cursed spirit of indifference. May the following poem entitled "The Passenger" also help us to clearly see this truth

"SING A LITTLE LOUDER"
After a speech, Pro-Life activist Penny Lea was approached by an old man. Weeping, he told her the following story:

I lived in Germany during the Nazi holocaust. I considered myself a Christian. I attended Church since I was a small boy. We had heard the stories of what was happening to the Jews, but like most people today in this country, we tried to distance ourselves from the reality of what was really taking place. What could anyone do to stop it? "A railroad track ran behind our small church, and each Sunday morning we would hear the whistle from the distance and then the clacking of the wheels moving over the track. We became disturbed when one Sunday we noticed cries coming from the train as it passed by. We grimly realized that the train was carrying Jews. They were like cattle in those cars! "Week after week that train whistle would blow. We would dread to hear the sound of those old wheels because we knew that the Jews would begin to cry to us as they passed our church. It was so terribly disturbing! We could do nothing to help these poor miserable people, yet their screams tormented us. We knew exactly at what time that whistle would blow, and we decided the only way to keep from being so disturbed by the cries was to start singing our hymns. By the time the train came rumbling past the church yard, we were singing at the top of our voices. If some of the screams reached our ears, we'd just sing a little louder until we could hear them no more. Years passed and no one talks about it much anymore, but I still hear that train whistle in my sleep. I can still hear them crying out for help. G-d forgive all of us who called ourselves Christians, yet did nothing to intervene."

"Their screams tormented us . . . If some of their screams reached our ears we'd just sing a little louder."

Now, so many years later, I see it happening all over again in America. God forgive you as Americans for you have blocked out the screams of millions of your own children. The holocaust is here. The response is the same as it was in my country - SILENCE!"

Have you ever wondered HOW people could have stood by and let the holocaust just happen? Do you wonder why the Christians in this story chose to just sing their praise to God a little louder to drown out the victim's cries?

The old man's story is in the past. The past cannot be changed. It is easy to think we would act differently now. But the old man's last words are haunting "It's happening all over again in America with abortion. The Holocaust is here."

As American Christians, we have become so comfortable in our lovely buildings and padded pews. We have beautiful fellowship halls for our many banquets. We have the latest sound equipment for our praise and worship. We have computers to keep our records. We gather together each week and shut ourselves inside our buildings. We raise our voices as loud as we can, all in the name of God.

And yet, in the heavenly realm, our voices raised in praise are drowned out by screams of agony from millions of babies who are being executed before they are born. We can't see them. We can't hear them. But it is happening right now!

Babies are being aborted UP UNTIL THE DAY OF BIRTH in this country. Their organs and brains are "harvested" for use in medical experimentation. In Wichita, Kansas, the smoke stack from the furnace of Dr. Tiller's abortion clinic belches out black smoke and the sickening smell of burning flesh. These are the bodies of 7th, 8th and 9th month old babies being "disposed of".

If the Christians in the old man's church had done something, they would have probably been killed. That is not the case with us. We don't even have that as an excuse for our silence.

Years from now will you be like that old man trying to explain your apathy as millions were led away to slaughter in abortion clinics? Or will you raise your voice and cry out in protest for those who have no voice! The choice is YOURS!

THE PASSENGER Penny Lea

"I found myself in anger, I cried out in despair. I prayed, "L-rd let them hear me! Let just one person care!" I raised my voice to heaven as the train kept moving on, as we passed behind the church yard! I could hear the worship songs. I cried out all the louder to the Christians there inside, but they raised the chorus louder not hearing me outside. I knew they heard the whistle and the clacking of the tracks. They knew that I was going to die and still they turned their backs. I said, "Father in heaven how can your people be so very hard of hearing to the cry of one like me? I shouted, "Please have mercy! Just a prayer before I die!" But they sang a little louder to the Holy One on High. They raised their hands to Heaven but the blood was dripping down. The blood of all the innocent their voices tried to drown. They have devotions daily, they function in My Name, and they never even realized it was I upon that train.

FACTS ABOUT ABORTION

Fact: In the United States it is legal to abort a baby up until the day of birth.

Fact: In the D&X procedure babies are "partially aborted" so the head is still in the cervix but the body is out. While in this position the live baby is still considered an "abortion" therefore a non-person. The live baby's brains are sucked out and the other organs are harvested and sold to "researchers". The baby receives no anesthesia and is alive until the procedure kills him.

Fact: Every day in America about 4,400 babies die painful deaths by dismemberment, chemical poisoning, lethal injections into the heart, being torn limb from limb and now, being partially delivered and having their brains sucked out and their organs sold.

Fact: Abortion has two victims - the baby and the mother. Many women who have abortions suffer both physically and mentally. Depression, anxiety, grief, infection, sterility and even death are not uncommon as a result of the abortion.

Fact: Only 1% of abortions are performed as a result of rape or incest. Most abortions are done as a form of birth control because the baby is "inconvenient", "too expensive", or a "burden".

29 posted on 10/02/2003 1:45:21 PM PDT by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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It's from Oliver Wendell Holmes's 1927 majority opinion in BUCK V. BELL that upheld a Virginia law mandating the sterilization of the "feebleminded."

For three decades, Holmes brought his distinctively Darwinian bias to the Court. He spoke candidly: "I see no reason for attributing to man a significance different in kind from that which belongs to a baboon or a grain of sand." Do Laws and Standards Evolve?

A person convicted of killing a bald eagle can be fined up to $250,000 and receive a two-year prison term. SLAIN EAGLE FOUND IN N.J.

 

 

34 posted on 10/02/2003 2:53:13 PM PDT by Vindiciae Contra TyrannoSCOTUS
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Ok, this Eugenics business is one of my pet peeves, so to speak. I would like to invite several of my Christian friends who have been charging me with heresy for a while now. I have no reason to doubt that you all are well-intentioned and truly love Jesus.

My own take on Eugenics involves PlannedParenthood and old Margaret Sanger but it goes further because of Chesterton's book EUGENICS AND OTHER EVILS. The bottom line for Chesterton, writng in the 1920's was that Eugenics is an intentional program that has been promoted by the Industrial Capitalists who controled and owned the newspapers as far back as the times around WWI. I hope you all can relate to this discussion.

37 posted on 10/02/2003 4:14:43 PM PDT by RichardMoore
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No matter what the topic, anti-capitalism and anti-Americanism have to be plugged in:

WAR AGAINST THE WEAK: EUGENICS AND AMERICA'S CAMPAIGN TO CREATE A MASTER RACE written by Edwin Black,

America's campaign? Was this sanctioned by the government or had analmost universal support of the population? Of course not. The title is a smear.

who contends that American "corporate philanthropies helped found and fund the Nazi eugenics of Hitler and Mengele."

Another smear. Corporate philanthropies fund research, and at the time that was research. The athor makes it sound as if corporations themselves were interested in killing the weak.

Today it takes the form of "human genomic science and corporate globalization."

Croporate globalization and eugenics? The man is an immoral moron.

58 posted on 10/02/2003 8:29:47 PM PDT by TopQuark
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Amen. I wish that instead of playing the religious card regarding pro-life, the truth would be revealed.

Just for note - I have no prob with religion, but with its zealots who insist on hell and damnation.

This issue needs to be treated with compassion - i.e. truth

As a reformed pro-choice woman (upon reading a similar story about Sanger and the Rockefellers), I tell anyone who will listen

61 posted on 10/02/2003 8:57:53 PM PDT by PurVirgo (Here's a tip: Never weed eat the dogpen with your mouth open.)
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71 posted on 10/02/2003 11:23:58 PM PDT by ppaul
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If you think that this quote came from a Nazi document, you're wrong. It's from Oliver Wendell Holmes's 1927 majority opinion in BUCK V. BELL that upheld a Virginia law mandating the sterilization of the "feebleminded."

I happen to agree with Mr. Holmes.
It is one thing to validate the notion that a good society cares for its feebleminded and its weak.

It's quite another to allow them to breed out of control, to allow them to vote and to elect them to public office in a frenzy of mindless compassion.

And lest you think I am talking tongue-in-cheek, ponder the members of legislatures, from the federal level down to the local level.
You think California's sad state is the result of an accident?

74 posted on 10/03/2003 6:36:27 AM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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We can't afford to just sing louder while the train goes by.

for lurkers and posters who don't know what this refers to --
(at least this is how I've heard it)...suppossedly an elderly German
recalled that during WWII, transport trains would stop for a while in his town.
The church he attended was near to the station, the trains, of course, were headed to
the death camps.
Some Sundays, the lamentations from the train were loud enough to disturb the
atmosphere of the sanctuary of the church...
so the congregation simply sang louder to drown out the crys of the condemned
and to remove the shame of their inaction from their minds and discussion.

At least this is what I heard on the "Haven" Christian music/commentary show.
76 posted on 10/03/2003 6:55:58 AM PDT by VOA
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