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To: PhiKapMom
Anyone who is so obtuse or unsophisticated to not understand that without electoral success and political office, principles and ideologies cannot be protected, won and codified, aren't worth the time of day. Electoral success necessitaties a consensus and the accomodations and compromises that entails.

People who have no desire to change their world, no will to work within the parameters of a real political landscape, no intent to address their grievences or pursue their principles in serious ways need to be kicked to the curb wit' a quickness.

A principled vote for an unelectable Tom McClintock, who could never deliver a pro-life, anti-gay and immigration satisfaction from the Sacramento Governor office even if elected - is not to be respected or admired or understood in any way. It's nothing but a selfish fashion statement.

"Conservative" still has a distinct political and ideological meaning in the world outside Free Republic, but it has been mangled beyond recognition within the forum. When Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Dana Rohrbacher, Duke Cunningham, Chris Cox, Sean Hannity, Bill Thomas, Bill Simon and Duncan Hunter are no longer considered "real conservatives" by mutants here ... I don't want to be a "real conservative".

The California GOP is now Arnold's party. The sweet little power and financial motherlode the unappeasables enjoyed and maintained through their perennial LOSING is hitherto TERMINATED.

Californians got Gray Davis, Barbara Boxer, Dianne Feinstein, Bill Lockyear and Socialist Democrat rule because the California GOP was run by hacks who deemed any Republican capable of statewide election automatically unfit and not Conservative enough to support.

That's the angst here. The McClintock gang are losing their franchise, and all the power and money that goes with it.

189 posted on 09/30/2003 8:19:42 PM PDT by ArneFufkin
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To: ArneFufkin
That is the best analysis I have seen of what is going on with these folks! Explains a lot!

Glad to know that CA GOP is getting back to what it should be doing -- nominating candidates that can win!

Like you, I don't want any part of being a "real" conservative! Those type words raise the hair on the back of my neck now after all of this!
191 posted on 09/30/2003 8:27:14 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (Support our President -- Donate to Bush-Cheney '04 (www.georgewbush.com/donate))
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To: ArneFufkin
"Conservative" still has a distinct political and ideological meaning in the world outside Free Republic, but it has been mangled beyond recognition within the forum. When Michael Medved, Dennis Prager, Hugh Hewitt, Dana Rohrbacher, Duke Cunningham, Chris Cox, Sean Hannity, Bill Thomas, Bill Simon and Duncan Hunter are no longer considered "real conservatives" by mutants here ... I don't want to be a "real conservative".


prescient... but you realize of course, that you are no doubt an ideological sell out. apparently we are in good company... when they called Issa a car theif and rino baby murderor... I really began to wonder, do I want to be considered a "friend" of these kind of folks? A fellow "conservative"?

I think not.
Better to be a RINO... if Issa, Bush and Arnold are...

217 posted on 09/30/2003 9:40:50 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (robert... the rino...)
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To: ArneFufkin
Bump to your comments :-)
242 posted on 09/30/2003 10:09:49 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: ArneFufkin
A person who votes for someone exclusivly because of a label next to his name and because he was in a couple movies is a sheeple. They have zero integrety and have no ability to think and do not deserve to vote at all.
340 posted on 10/01/2003 10:35:33 PM PDT by Dat
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