Daily Thread: Illegal Alien Freedom Ride Counter Protest

Federation for American Immigration Reform (FAIR) ^ | Sept. 27, 2003 | staff

[4Freedom]

You're putting the cart before the horse. You have us on the path to a population of 1 billion without any guarantee that your magic future technology will ever materialize.

I told you where the numbers I linked you to came from, available arable land, fresh water, mountains, deserts, etc..

Your formula isn't mathematical, it's new age mumbo jumbo.

[WRhine]

We have to somehow take this battle right to the source. The elite politicians.

Couldn't agree more. The old saying that if you want to change things, vote out ALL the Incumbents (in both parties) is never more true than today. The political establishment has become so hidebound and unresponsive to the electorate they have become a power truly unto themselves with accountability to no one. Though there are a few politicians like Tom Tancredo who is rare exception to the idiocy (and greed) of most politicians.

Term limits is something I have always been for. It would go a long way towards solving growing crises that are accumulating in this country. Once the "Career" is taken out of “Politics” the ability of moneyed interests to influence political results is greatly diminished; and getting new representatives in on a regular basis makes for a much more responsive government.

Taking a quote from the great Air Force General, Curtis LeMay, "The hell with swatting flys, go straight to the manure pile". He could have been talking about the politicians of today.

I can't think of a better analogy to describe the quality of elected representatives today...LOL.

[4Freedom]

We need every Sam Graves we can get. I look forward to hearing more about him.

[4Freedom]

"He could have been talking about the politicians of today."

That's an insult to manure.

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NEW INFO!

(At least I think it's new...to tell the truth I'm too tired to read all the replies! LOL)

I guess most of you have already discovered that some of the numbers aren't working, some work on M-F, 9-5 only.

Here's the update:

Whitehouse Comment line: 202-456-1111

House: 877-762-8762

Senate: 800-648-3516


Here's a list of the Senate List of names:

Akaka, Daniel D-HI

Alexander, Lamar R-Tenn

Allard, Wayne R-Co

Allen, George R-Va

Baucus, Max D-MI

Bayh, Evan D-In

Bennett, Robert R-Ut

Biden, Joseph D-De

Bingaman, Jeff D-NM

Bond, Christopher R-Mo

Boxer, Barbara D-Ca

Breaux, John D-La

Brownback, Sam R-Ks

Bunning, Jim R-Ky

Burns, Conrad R-Mt

Byrd, Robert D-WV

Campbell, Ben R-Co

Cantwell, Maria D-Wa

Carper, Thomas D-De

Chafee, Lincoln R-RI

Chambless, Saxby R-Ga

Clinton, Hitlery D-NY

Cochran, Thad R-Ms

Coleman, Norm R-Mn

Collins, Susan R-Me

Conrad, Kent D-ND

Cornyn, John R-Tx

Corzine, Jon D-NJ

Craig, Larry R-In

Crapo, Mike R-Id

Daschle, Tom D-SD

Dayton, Mark D-Mn

DeWine, Mike R-Oh

Dodd, Christopher D-Ct

Dole, Elizabeth R-NC

Domenici, Peter R-NM

Dorgan, Byron D-ND

Durbin, Richard D-Il

Edwards, John D-NC

Ensign, John R-Nv

Enzi, Mike R-Wy

Feingold, Russell D-Wi

Feinstein, Diane D-Ca

Fitzgerald, Peter R-Il

Frist, Bill R-Tn

Graham, Bob D-Fl

Graham, Lindsey R-SC

Grassley, Charles R-In

Gregg, Judd R-NH

Hagel, Chuck R-Ne

Harkin, Tom D-Ia

Hollings, Ernest D-Sc

Hutchinson, Kay Bailey R-Tx

Inhofe, Daniel D-Hi

Jeffords, James I-Vt

Johnson, Tim D-SD

Kennedy, Edward D-Ma

Kerry, John D-Ma

Kohl, Herb D-Wi

Kyl, Jon R-Az

Landrieu, Mary D-La

Lautenberg, Frank D-NJ

Leahy, Patrick D-Vt

Levin, Carl D-Mi

Lieberman, Joseph D-Ct

Lincoln, Blanche D-Ar

Lott, Trent R-Ms

Lugar, Richard R-In

McCain, John R-Az

McConnell, Mitch R-Ky

Mikulski, Barbara D-Md

Murray, Patty D-Wa

Nelson, Benjamin D-Ne

Nickles, Don R-Ok

Pryor, Mark D-Ar

Reed, Jack D-RI

Reid, Harry D-Nv

Roberts, Pat R-Ks

Rockerfeller, John D-WV

Santorum, Rick R-Pa

Sarbanes, Paul D-Md

Schumer, Chuck D-NY

Sessions, Jeff R-Al

Smith, Gordon R-Or

Snow, Olympia R-Me

Specter, Arlen R-Pa

Stabenow, Debbie D-Mi

Stevens, Ted R-Ak

Sununu, John R-NH

Talent, James R-Mo

Thomas, Craig R-Wy

Voinovich, George R-Oh

Warner, John R-Va

Wyden, Ron D-Or

[4Freedom]

Thanks, get some rest. See you in the AM.

[WRhine]

Yeh, the treasonous scum that passes for OUR government these days is even lower than that.

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Does anyone have the house list? Please post it if you do.

I've called about 50 of the Senate today..plus my homeboys and Cornyn, Flake, McCain, and Kolbe who currently are sponsoring bills that favor illegals.

Most of the Senate you just leave a message when you are connected to _____'s office.

I've narrowed my points considerably, as I guess you've discovered, there isn't much message time.

Here's my own talking points I've used today:

I start out saying I'm calling to counter protest the Illegal Alien's Freedom Ride.

I remind them that they have no rights as they are illegal and non citizens.

Next I reminded them:

Less than 2% actually pick our lettuce

25% are on some form of public assistance; that amounts to roughly $20,000,000,000 per year from taxpayer's pockets.
Why should the taxpayer have to subsidize some business man's cheap labor?

In addition to that cost, they displace 730,000 American workers per year and depress the wages of the rest.

28% of our prison population is illegal aliens who have committed crimes against citizens.

Under 6% actually pay any taxes, but they send to Mexic0 $6-$8 Billion a year that they don't spend here.

Then I tell them I want;

I want you to get control of immigration.

I want you to vote down bills for hidden amnesties, worker programs, and rights and taxpayer subsidies for illegals.

No public assistance for illegals and their families. No anchor babies.

No Matricula Card acceptance, no driver's liscenses.

I remind them of 911 and I demand something be done about letting so many uninvestigated foreigners into this country.


I assure them of extreme anger across America on this issue, and that we aren't going to take it anymore. I assure them I'll be watching how they vote on the issue and vote accordingly, that they can no longer count on my acquiescence.

I usually run out of time about then LOL

How are you all doing? Have you had difficulties or stumbled on points that hit home?

[vikingcelt]

"The get to behave the way they want, follow their own set of rules because OUR government has constricted us concerning them!"

Yup. I was just listening to the Terry Anderson Show out of Los Angeles. He's on Sunday night from 8PM to 9PM and you can find his show at www.theterryandersonshow.com. He'll REALLY get you going about all of this and the people who call in will too. As one man said tonight, once they overwhelm us with numbers there could very well (almost with certainty) be a scenerio like this: They have control of California. California secedes from the United States (and many other states will do the same once they become predominantly illegal alien). All of the "elected" officials are Mexicans. They dig up old land documents from way, way back when Mexicans owned California for a short period of time. They use these old documents to prove that you don't own the land that your house sits on. They take your house. Far fetched? I don't think so. And apparently (quite obviously because not ONE illegal alien on this damned so-called "Freedom Ride" has been arrested) this is EXACTLY what our government wants. We are the people with no rights. We the people who built this country, paid taxes, raised children here, created prosperity. We are the people with NO RIGHTS. Something very, very, very massive is coming and it isn't going to be pleasant.

[vikingcelt]

Something else I wanted to say JustPiper about the mask thing. The man I live with now was very involved with Proposition 187 back in 1994 (before I knew him). He and all the other people involved with Proposition 187 received constant death threats. He wanted a permit to carry a weapon because his life was in danger. They wouldn't give it to him. There was a rally in Marin County and a Mexican guy WITH A MASK WHO HAD A MACHETE made a motion with that machete as if to slit Bill's throat. Bill complained to a policeman and the policeman said something like "Oh, but that's their culture."!!! So I guess if you get murdered by a Mexican with a machete that's just fine because "it's their culture dont'cha know?"

I feel like I'm in the Twilight Zone where everything that I have believed in all of my life has just become topsy turvy. I feel betrayed and hurt and angry. We need to organize a HUGE protest. We really, really do. If I had the money I would bankroll it and I would somehow someway get the attention of enough people (it would have to be in the millions) to fight back in the best way that we could think of. I'm ready now. I just don't know how to organize something like that or where to get the money.

[longtermmemmory]

sign for counter protests:

The French Support Open Borders!

Support Lawyers who participate in ongoing Felonies!
(if they don't care about their law license, help them loose it)

Out of Control Borders are good for Socialism!

Democrats don't care about the law, why should illegal immigrants!

Gray Davis helps illegals get California Licenses, you should support criminal document fraud TOO!

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Democrats don't care about the law, why should illegal immigrants!

Sadly, Republicans don't either! Most of the bills for worker programs and amnesty are Republican sponsored. Check it out!

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I like "Jobs for Americans" and "America's #1 export...Jobs, America's #1 import...Foreign workers!"

[JustPiper]

CL please ping the Illinois Freepers, the bus could be headed their way.The Chgo Trib is one we are not suppose to post, so I will post exerpts from the paper about the March:

9-28
`Freedom ride' seeks new rights for immigrants
By William Grady

Thousands gathered in downtown Chicago on Saturday to cheer as about 180 Chicago-area residents set off on a nationwide "freedom ride" for immigrant workers that is intended to echo the civil-rights movement of the 1960s.

Three of the four buses from Chicago left for Michigan on a relatively direct trip to Washington and New York City. The fourth bus will wind its way through Illinois, with stops in Rockford, Springfield, Carbondale and other Downstate cities before turning east.

Graciela Contreras, a coordinator for Hispanic ministry for the Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Chicago.
(Shows the Catholics are backing this)

many representing unions and community and religious groups--who plan to join in meetings Wednesday and Thursday with members of Congress and a rally next Saturday in New York.(more backers)

The freedom ride is part of a nationwide campaign begun by the Hotel Employees and Restaurant Employees International Union to promote the legalization of undocumented workers
(THIS says it all! How does one join a union if they are ILLEGAL?!)

In Chicago, the rally at the Federal Plaza in the Loop attracted people from unions and groups such as ACORN, the Illinois Coalition for Immigrant and Refugee Rights and the Illinois Hunger Coalition. It also featured politicians such as U.S. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), U.S. Rep. Luis Gutierrez (D-Ill.), Illinois Senate President Emil Jones (D-Chicago) and Illinois Secretary of State Jesse White.
(2 more for the SELLOUT list!) Acorn ran the streets of downtown Chgo. Saturday with their little yello signs!)

"It's time that we fix our broken immigration laws," said Dan Schlademan, a vice president and organizing director of the Service Employees International, whose members include the janitors who clean buildings in Chicago and the suburbs. "They pay taxes. They're here because they want to take care of their families and there's nothing wrong with that."

A small group of counter-demonstrators, one carrying a flag with a swastika, protested from across Dearborn Street.

TaDA!

[JustPiper]

Being I also do not know how to bankroll something this huge, I asked for Freepers who have to lend a hand. We've had crosscountry protestsbefore.

I've been giving this alot of thought tonight, how to get sponsors for the buses, how maybe we may have to pay for our rooms with a discount group rate, etc. Somehow, someway the answers will come.

We had a crazy Mexican with a machete several months ago loose near a private North Pk. College. They had a massive search for him but never heard about it again, so I guess machete is the weapon of choice and that scares the bejesus outta me.

[JustPiper]

Well, considering we bought CA. fair and square and have supported it for about 150 years then we want restitution first!

[JustPiper]

We all agree on one thing here this has got to stop and we have an overwhelming job ahead of us.

If we break it down to the 50 states and get help from Freepers in each, we can do this better.

What I am proposing is study your state and politicians, media etc. Make a list for us of their names and organizations etc. We need to also find possible donors for OUR bus ride to DC for a weekend valley and those willing to contribute. We need politicians that back us on those buses.

So please compile your list and post it on this thread so we know the SELLOUTS and our ALLIES!!!

[JustPiper]

Please forgive me if you get double pinged, but we need all the help we can get for volunteering and our eventual busride to DC!

[JustPiper]

Please forgive me if you get double pinged, but we need all the help we can get for volunteering and our eventual busride to DC!