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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
I said the Clintons are desperate to keep California under the DNC... and you twist that and ask how many stops they've made for Bustabudget? Well, none... but that's irrelevant unless you are trying to distort something there. They have, however, been helping and campaigning for Davis as you well know, don't you? :-)

Additionally, your map is pretty but also irrelevant. I don't recall folks saying that Arnold will deliver California to Bush, merely that it would force the DNC to actually spend time and resources there in 2004 when they don't have to now. Even if Arnold can't give Bush the votes in California, it will force the DNC to use resources there that they would rather use in more borderline states.

Lastly, again that map is pretty... but it is comparing apples to asparagus. You showed states with your self-determined definition of RINO governors that went to Gore, and then you showed states with Dem governors that went to Bush. To show any meaning between the two, you need to show states with RINO governors that went to Bush. That IS what your supposed point is.... Arnold as a RINO and whether it will help CA go to Bush. Funny that you would completely leave that out of your graphic.
128 posted on 09/25/2003 4:27:30 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: Tamsey
I don't recall folks saying that Arnold will deliver California to Bush

It's been said over and over on FR for a month.

142 posted on 09/25/2003 4:33:14 PM PDT by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Tamsey; fieldmarshaldj
and you twist that and ask how many stops they've made for Bustabudget? Well, none...

No twisting going on here. I think that is very...odd, don't you think? Heck yeah they are supporting Davis, but The Talking Point is "No on the Recall, Yes on Bustamante" so why aren't the Clintons being good Democrates?

They ARE the Democrates, in case you haven't realized about them yet, pay no attention to their words, just their actions.

Additionally, your map is pretty but also irrelevant. I don't recall folks saying that Arnold will deliver California to Bush

LOL! Yeah, maybe once they said that...in passing, in FReepmail.

To show any meaning between the two, you need to show states with RINO governors that went to Bush.

Tam, that is the point. Zero. Goose ego, Nada. OK, West Virginia, I take that back, that being R-Cecil Underwood, but lost his own reelection in the same election to the sleaze Bob Wise!

The graphic gets a bit cluttered if all the info is in there (I would have liked it in there too though, FYI) here is the RINO breakdown courtesy of your good buddy fieldmarshalldj;

CT-Rowland; IL-Ryan; MA-Cellucci; NJ-Whitman; NM-Johnson (he wasn't a RINO in the sense of moving towards the 'Rats per se, but really a Libertarian. Good with some issues, but on drugs, absolutely nutty); NY-Pataki; RI-Almond. Some might also include these 3, but that's a bit controversial: MI-Engler (who got a bit skittish on some issues at the end, notably school vouchers); PA-Ridge (abortion); WI-Thompson (I'm forgetting the specific claims against him, probably with regard to state spending, and left a shockingly unprepared Lieutenant who had served with him for 14 years in charge of the candy store when he left for DC, and lost the office to the AG whose people bribed retarded citizens with soft drinks to vote for him). Point being, this map needs a "legend" but if you know what the colors represent, its pretty damaging.

205 posted on 09/25/2003 5:05:41 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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