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To: Tamsey; fieldmarshaldj
and you twist that and ask how many stops they've made for Bustabudget? Well, none...

No twisting going on here. I think that is very...odd, don't you think? Heck yeah they are supporting Davis, but The Talking Point is "No on the Recall, Yes on Bustamante" so why aren't the Clintons being good Democrates?

They ARE the Democrates, in case you haven't realized about them yet, pay no attention to their words, just their actions.

Additionally, your map is pretty but also irrelevant. I don't recall folks saying that Arnold will deliver California to Bush

LOL! Yeah, maybe once they said that...in passing, in FReepmail.

To show any meaning between the two, you need to show states with RINO governors that went to Bush.

Tam, that is the point. Zero. Goose ego, Nada. OK, West Virginia, I take that back, that being R-Cecil Underwood, but lost his own reelection in the same election to the sleaze Bob Wise!

The graphic gets a bit cluttered if all the info is in there (I would have liked it in there too though, FYI) here is the RINO breakdown courtesy of your good buddy fieldmarshalldj;

CT-Rowland; IL-Ryan; MA-Cellucci; NJ-Whitman; NM-Johnson (he wasn't a RINO in the sense of moving towards the 'Rats per se, but really a Libertarian. Good with some issues, but on drugs, absolutely nutty); NY-Pataki; RI-Almond. Some might also include these 3, but that's a bit controversial: MI-Engler (who got a bit skittish on some issues at the end, notably school vouchers); PA-Ridge (abortion); WI-Thompson (I'm forgetting the specific claims against him, probably with regard to state spending, and left a shockingly unprepared Lieutenant who had served with him for 14 years in charge of the candy store when he left for DC, and lost the office to the AG whose people bribed retarded citizens with soft drinks to vote for him). Point being, this map needs a "legend" but if you know what the colors represent, its pretty damaging.

205 posted on 09/25/2003 5:05:41 PM PDT by PeoplesRep_of_LA (That's pre-election bogus, Arnold Schwarzenegger.)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
but The Talking Point is "No on the Recall, Yes on Bustamante" so why aren't the Clintons being good Democrates?

They are, dear, it somehow escaped your notice.

Weren't you paying attention when Clinton was campaigning for Davis? How he kept insisting that folks vote against the recall? Remember him in the black church quoting from the Bible and telling folks they were casting stones by voting for the recall and "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

and this one was telling... "Gray Davis and I have been friends for a long time. I don't want this happening to him ‘.‘.‘. but this is way bigger than him," Clinton told a crowd of several hundred at the mostly black church.

The Clintons are seriously stumping for the DNC in California. Do you think the Clintons are happy to see McClintock staying in the race and splitting the GOP vote, yes or no?

216 posted on 09/25/2003 5:23:45 PM PDT by Tamzee ("Big government sounds too much like sluggish socialism."......Arnold Schwarzenegger)
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To: PeoplesRep_of_LA
Huh?
341 posted on 09/25/2003 8:19:13 PM PDT by 68 grunt (3/1 India, 3rd, 0311, 68-69)
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