Dispelling the CIA-Bin Laden Myth

FOX ^ | September 24, 2003 | Richard Miniter

[Tailgunner Joe]

Two years after the Sept. 11 attacks, no memorial service, cable-news talkfest or university seminar seemed to have been complete without someone emerging from the woodwork to wonder darkly why the CIA ever financed Usama bin Laden "in the first place."

[JohnGalt]

Those who take the time to read conservative history, respect its traditions, its intellectual history, the way it viewed events of their time, become the keepers of the tradition-- a conservative cognitive elite, of sorts.

Much different than a leftwing congnitive elite which merely tries to grab the reigns of power.

[Ditto]

Bush himself has come out denying that there was a Saddam/Al Quaeda link, we would do well to drop this false lead before it becomes the next Democrat talking point.

False statement. Bush has said there is no hard evidence linking Saddam with 9-11. There is circumstantial evidence that Saddam knew of the plan and may have provided assistance. The best we have is a Czech intel report of M. Atta, the “field commander” meeting with Saddam’s spy chief in Prague several months before 9-11. The CIA has said that they don’t consider that evidence enough to prove a link since they have no way of verifying that meeting took place or what may have been discussed.

There is plenty of very hard evidence linking Saddam with Islamic terror groups including UBL and with numerous terror attacks around the world including the 1993 WTC bombing which was most likely funded and supported by Saddam. One of the perps in that attack was actually an Iraqi spook who had Kuwaiti papers forged and placed in the Kuwaiti state records during Saddam's reign of terror there in 1990 to make this guy look to be a native-born Kuwaiti citizen. He was setting up sleepers and false-flag operatives even then.

[swarthyguy]

Little revisionsism here. The CIA has perfect plausible deniability.

So this is just trying to whitewash recent history.

Keeps the Saudi coverup going.

All American money was channeled thru the ISI. Hekkmatyr got the most, and Osama was close to him.

Also, It is a fact that BinLadin Sr and Pappa Bush were friends.

The BUshBinladin connection is extensive. BinLadin's brothers were flown out of the US; one was the head of WAMY in the USA. A terror group.

As long as we engage in this ostrich in the sand attitude, concerning the extensive history between Saudi and the US and refuse to look at the facts of Saudi involvement and sponsorship of jihad thru the 90's, we're pissing in the wind and

Bush is starting to lose votes because of his cowardly refusal to confront the Saudis, all valid reasons nothwithstanding.

[JohnGalt]

Those are well and good faith critiques of my style, and I am constantly working on it to improve. I do appreciate the criticism. I receive many kind Freepmails that encourage the 'fight', so I hang around hoping that one of the many lurkers who did not come here via the CBN or 700 Club website, might learn that our ideas are not uncommon. In your case, you are an actual active member of the Mainstream Right who still is an honest broker on this site. It is in my interest to win you to our critique so civility and honesty is the better tactic.

I think in the early days of this current mess, I appealed to Mainstream Rightists to caution those who wielded the anti-Semite branding iron that it was an unacceptable debating tactic. It fell on deaf ears, and just about everyone of my side of the spectrum simply stopped posting.

I was hardly an ideological warrior prior to this mess, but as I watched group think set in and blind loyalty to the state replace the skeptical think of old FR, it was hard to stay civil. Indeed, ensuring 'fights' became a useful tactic in exposing the undercurrent of phoniness that separates honest American conservatives from simple caricatures of militarists.

In the meantime, I have met far better thinkers than I on this site who love liberty, their homes, their wives, and worship Christ as best they can. During these dark times, it is best to rely on things we can be sure about rather than say, David Kay.

My critique has always been on the advisors around Bush who let him down in pursuit of their own agenda. I think if you start reading posts in a different light you will see that many put the agenda far ahead of Bush.

Go Red Sox, God Speed Liberty, best to you and your family.

[swarthyguy]

Go Red Sox,

What an optimist you are!!!

[JohnGalt]

"including the 1993 WTC bombing which was most likely funded and supported by Saddam."


Tin-foil hat material. Even Daniel Pipes makes fun of this theory.

[JohnGalt]

They're due.

[Huck]

Go Red Sox

Speaking of blind loyalty :-P

Let's go Yankees.

[Robert A Cook PE]

WOW!

Now, I'm sure Newsweek going to put THIS on the their cover.

Maybe the NY Times will have it top and centered?

...

[swarthyguy]

Nice tight question.

Those denials by the CIA guys are wide enough to fly a 747 through.

[Ditto]

Even Daniel Pipes makes fun of this theory.

Read this and get back to me. Who is Ramzi Yousef?

The FBI and DoJ put a guy in prison under the name of Ramzi Yousef. The real Ramzi Yousef, along with his family, was most likely killed by Saddam's goons in 1990 because he was the same age, and had the same birthplace (Buluchstan) and accent as the guy we have in prison. The real Ramzi Yousef's education consisted of a 2 year computer electronics course in England. He was not a "master chemist" as the guy we have in prison is. People who went to school with him in England did not recognize photos of the guy we have in prison. The FBI and DoJ refused to follow-up on that fact and said they don't care what his real name is --- they just wanted a conviction.

The last thing Clinton wanted was a tie to Saddam. He would have had to do more than drop a few bombs then.

[JohnGalt]

Tin foil material.

[ravingnutter]

Evidence links Saddam to 9-11, Inhofe says

: )

[JohnGalt]

I stand with the President on this one and stand firmly against the tin foil hatters.

[Mustangcountry]

Galt you are a leftist.