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How Old Is the Earth?
Creation-Evolution Headlines ^ | 6/05/2003 | Creation-Evolution Headlines

Posted on 09/21/2003 11:20:34 PM PDT by bondserv

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To: forsnax5; Fitzcarraldo
Civil War? Never happened.

Indeed. I hope my point is clear by now. By all means, let's be skeptical, but let's not be so skeptical that we end up not "knowing" anything at all. In particular, if we were to apply the proposed standard of knowledge to all historical events, we would eventually be forced to conclude that, not only do we not know anything about the past, but we can't really know anything about the past. But that doesn't gain us anything, and loses a lot, so we don't really set the bar of knowledge nearly that high for other past events, nor should we set it that high for the theory of evolution. In all cases of claims about history, we are presented with some evidence, and from that, we form conclusions - and the theory of evolution is no different from the theory of the Civil War in that respect, even if we don't usually think of the actuality of the Civil War as a "theory" ;)

101 posted on 09/22/2003 7:23:20 AM PDT by general_re (SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Sarcasm Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks To Your Health.)
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To: R. Scott
"Even a lowly seaman would realize this is due to curvature."

Kinda makes ya wonder how anyone could ever believe in a flat earth, but not all people have had the benefit of wide travel as you have.

102 posted on 09/22/2003 7:23:23 AM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: general_re
I very am grateful for your nice reply! Thank you for being so kind-I very much like what you have said.

I do pity the lot of the Atheists, & almost as much, that of the blind fanatic of religions. As I told a good & close friend when I learned that his otherwise very nice & seemingly decent brother is a homosexual, "What an awful cross to bear!"

Sad that some may not lay down assumed & false burdens.
103 posted on 09/22/2003 7:23:41 AM PDT by GatekeeperBookman ("Oh waiter! Please, change that-I'll have the Tancredo '04. Jorge Arbusto tasted just like Fox")
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To: microgood
"you ought to be able to at least generate a single cell form of life with some water, a carbon meteorite, and a little lightning or maybe some radiation from outer space. And there are always the thermal vents if all else fails."


I will if you will create a woman out of a rib.

Of course you're not God and I'm not a ribosome.

104 posted on 09/22/2003 7:26:33 AM PDT by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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To: bondserv
Thanks for the heads up!
105 posted on 09/22/2003 7:29:10 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Soliton
Evolution may be the act of creation.

Indeed. One of the reasons I tend to viscerally dislike creationist theories is because they seem to me to be an unintentional attempt to circumscribe God, to fit Him in someone's particular little box. But who am I to tell God how He can or cannot create universes? ;)

The Bible may be the Word, but it's not the totality of what God is or what He's done - we are given eyes and ears and minds for a reason, to let our senses and our experiences and our reasoning be our guide to creation. It's very difficult to avoid concluding that a 10,000 year old universe that appears to be 4.6 billion years old is anything other than a deliberate attempt to deceive - and I don't believe that God lies like that.

106 posted on 09/22/2003 7:33:35 AM PDT by general_re (SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Sarcasm Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks To Your Health.)
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To: Soliton
I will if you will create a woman out of a rib.

Male or female rib?

107 posted on 09/22/2003 7:38:09 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: Soliton
Of course you're not God and I'm not a ribosome.

Good one. Maybe God created the ribosome.
108 posted on 09/22/2003 7:38:29 AM PDT by microgood (They will all die......most of them.)
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To: Hoosier-Daddy
Evolutionary thinking has caused some to believe people in the past had more hair and were slow thinkers. The Prince of Egypt (Moses) had an adept understanding of the use of language, far beyond 99% of college grads do today.

The ability to write cogently is a gauge of a persons mastery of thought.

It is funny how so many kids are convinced in college that if someone didn't have a cell phone, they had to have been stupid. Evidence of the current ignorance regarding language and deep thinking.

Do you read some dumby from 5000 years ago? He was half ape you know.
109 posted on 09/22/2003 7:38:51 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: GatekeeperBookman
I do pity the lot of the Atheists, & almost as much, that of the blind fanatic of religions.

God is what He is, regardless of what we all think about Him. If it turns out that a literal reading of Genesis is a true account of the origins of life, then it's hardly God's fault that I currently don't accept it - it's my own imperfect understanding of His work that's at fault. And if it turns out that evolution is a true account...well, it's hardly God's fault that some other folks have misunderstood what He's done ;)

110 posted on 09/22/2003 7:41:13 AM PDT by general_re (SURGEON GENERAL'S WARNING: Quitting Sarcasm Now Greatly Reduces Serious Risks To Your Health.)
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To: general_re
By all means, let's be skeptical, but let's not be so skeptical that we end up not "knowing" anything at all.

Good comments. You're right. If we take the situation too far, I wouldn't be able to prove yesterday happened to me- and truthfully, sometimes I am very skeptical that it did (my reasoning- people talk in the movie theatre while the movie is playing. I'll explain if someone wants to know). You go too far down that road and next thing you know, you're in a Wachowski Brothers' film.

111 posted on 09/22/2003 7:41:26 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: YourAdHere
Depends. How old is George Clooney? You know it's his world, and we just live in it.

Ha!Ha! I bet he graduated from a good evolution oriented school that trained him in his marvelous ability at critical thinking.

112 posted on 09/22/2003 7:42:50 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: Truth666
Can someone explain why there are fossiles of subtropical and tropical life all over the planet ?

1. Plate techtonics.

2. Variable climate over hundreds of millions years.

113 posted on 09/22/2003 7:48:50 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: R. Scott
I think you meant to say, "Our Scientists have replaced the perfect Word of God, and everything now revolves around us."
114 posted on 09/22/2003 7:52:17 AM PDT by Gargantua (Embrace clarity.)
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To: Fester Chugabrew
whether scientists are measuring the age of a FORM or a SUBSTANCE.

Aristotle is alive and living in Indiana?

115 posted on 09/22/2003 7:52:57 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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To: BCrago66
All due respect, but creationism MAY be hedonism, as you suggest, but frankly creationism is a viable theory, and I do recognize it as a theory, but there is much to support it, and many questions remain of all other theories...
116 posted on 09/22/2003 7:53:54 AM PDT by NCLaw441
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To: microgood
"Good one. Maybe God created the ribosome."

What if God was a freeper and we've been arguing with him all day?
117 posted on 09/22/2003 7:55:14 AM PDT by Soliton (Alone with everyone else.)
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To: Just mythoughts
"How Old Is the Earth?" No flesh man knows, and we are not told by our Heavenly Father.

Adam knew and passed it on to you. Genesis 2 explains how God once again created every creature he had made previously for Adam to watch and name. Paul confirms that truth.

Genesis 2:19
19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

Romans 1:20
20. For since the creation of the world God's invisible qualities--his eternal power and divine nature--have been clearly seen, being understood from what has been made, so that men are without excuse.

Man has been on the planet from the beginning, which makes most scientists’ guesstimates a little long in the tooth.

118 posted on 09/22/2003 7:58:35 AM PDT by bondserv
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To: Soliton
What if God was a freeper and we've been arguing with him all day?

The thing that always tickles me is, God could take either side of this argument and win...

119 posted on 09/22/2003 7:58:54 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: microgood
The problem I have with evolution is it cannot explain how we got here.

Science is not philosophy. Evolution is acknowledgement and mechanism of change, not more.

120 posted on 09/22/2003 8:05:04 AM PDT by Alter Kaker (Whatever tears one may shed, in the end one always blows one’s nose.-Heine)
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