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Club for Caucasians stirs up Oakley High School
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Posted on 09/20/2003 5:59:31 AM PDT by Sub-Driver
Edited on 04/13/2004 2:43:56 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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To: Sub-Driver
Good for Lisa,I'll be watching to see where this all ends up.
Legally,she seems to be on solid ground.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:02:37 AM PDT
by
Mears
To: Mears
Lisa has my full support for this also.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:03:39 AM PDT
by
nwrep
To: Sub-Driver
"Gossett showed pictures of the school's Black Student Union, its members from all races; at one point, he said, there were more white students in the club than there were black."
I'm sorry, Californians are more confused than I thought.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:04:58 AM PDT
by
jocon307
(how much trouble is THIS post going to get me in?)
To: Sub-Driver
The NAA(l)CP's reaction is so typical. If they do it it's "embracing diversity" but if whites do it it's "not culturally sensitive". You know he would just love to say "racist" but can't quite get away with going that far.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:07:53 AM PDT
by
Ronin
(When the fox gnaws -- smile!)
To: Sub-Driver
Jesse! Jesse! Where are you son? The sky is falling!!
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:08:28 AM PDT
by
sandydipper
(Never quit - never surrender!)
To: sandydipper
way to go Lisa! wonder if anyone ever heard of the Black Congressional Caucus
To: jocon307
Club for Caucasians stirs up Oakley High school student surprised her idea turned into 'big deal'This is in San Fransico? There is not a sonwballs chance in hell that a caucasian club is gonna fly in SF without controversy!
Sometimes I wonder where people in this country think they live
To: Sub-Driver
"It's either we all have our clubs, or we have no clubs at all." Out of the mouths of babes.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:13:31 AM PDT
by
Imal
(The deadliest weapon is patience.)
To: jocon307
Californians are more confused than I thought. Don't be so hard on Californian. Remeber, our first black president was from Arkansas.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:13:38 AM PDT
by
tbpiper
To: Sub-Driver
"I mean, why not? But couldn't she call it a White Heritage Club? That sounds more politically correct." One of many postings at Freedom High's Web site suggested calling it the "Euro-American Student Union." These people really are stupid. Why "white" heritage? What would that mean? You have to have under a certain shade of beige to belong? "euro-American" which would exclude other whites/caucasians? Caucasian is really a pretty inclusive word, the club would be open to many different ethnic types --- people descended from Europe, India, Persia, lots of Asia.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:16:48 AM PDT
by
FITZ
To: Sub-Driver
Good for her!!! It's about time someone showed up the hypocracy of "celebrating diversity" as long as it's approved diversity. The one sentence I found disturbing was this,
""What is white culture? What are we proud of?" asked senior Clint Simons, 17, who said not many people would want to join a Caucasian Club. "What will people do? Dance the electric slide?" This is the typical attitude of most Americans. Ironic that they have no appreciation for Western Civilization (so called "white culture") which gives them the freedom to spout even uninformed opinions.
To: Sub-Driver
Darnell Turner, the chapter's vice president. "The club, in name, seems like a backdoor approach to separation." And the NAACP isn't separatist? A Black student union doesn't suggest separation? Hypocrite
There was the Power of Unity Club, an umbrella group that oversees all the school's cultural groups,
???????? Is this 1984 double speak? Splinter groups = unity? I detect some serious brain damage over there.
This is typical of the existing racist and sexist groups that exist today: Their particular groups MUST be allowed to exist but the corresponding White or straight groups are hate groups. I heard a commercial on the radio that urged listeners to support the Black business community. I can imagine what would happen if someone urged the support of White businesses.
It ain't likely that unity will increase when we insist on the double standards that this article mentions. It only fuels a backlash which, IMO, increases racial hatred.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:21:20 AM PDT
by
Dataman
To: Sub-Driver
Senior Clint Simons, 17, who said not many people would want to join a Caucasian Club. "What will people do? Dance the electric slide?" Hey, don't knock it!
Electric Slide
Step to right with right, slide left together
Step to right with right, slide left together
Step to right with right, slide left together
Clap
Step to left with left, slide right together
Step to left with left, slide right together
Step to left with left, slide right together
Clap
Step back on right foot
Step back on left foot
Step back on right foot
Touch back on left toe (don't put weight on this foot)
Step forward on left foot
Swing kick right foot
Step back on right foot
Touch back on left toe (don't put weight on this foot)
Step forward on left foot
Swing kick with right foot turning 1/4 turn to left
Dance begins again.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:21:30 AM PDT
by
BenLurkin
(Socialism is slavery)
To: sirchtruth
This is in San Fransico?Nope...about 60 miles east in the 'burbs, where normal people live.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:23:02 AM PDT
by
Drango
(McClintock is my first choice, but given the numbers I'm voting for Arnold.)
To: sirchtruth
OAKLEY is about 60 miles east of San Fagcisco..A farming town for the most part..But i must say to her... YOU GO GIRL!
To: Sub-Driver
"To Lisa the logic is simple"...Unfortunately, logic is does not come so easily to the PC crowd.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:25:20 AM PDT
by
freeangel
(freeangel)
To: Drango
BEAT ME TO IT!
To: FITZ
These people really are stupid. Why "white" heritage? What would that mean? You have to have under a certain shade of beige to belong? "euro-American" which would exclude other whites/caucasians? Caucasian is really a pretty inclusive word, the club would be open to many different ethnic types --- people descended from Europe, India, Persia, lots of Asia. The article indicates the group was started for at least two reasons: The other "clubs" excluded a hetero White -and- this is a reaction to all the other racist/sexist splinter groups. So if it is a stupid idea, it is no more stupid than an Aloha club or homosexual group.
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posted on
09/20/2003 6:26:29 AM PDT
by
Dataman
To: Sub-Driver
"What is white culture? What are we proud of?" asked senior Clint Simons, 17, who said not many people would want to join a Caucasian Club. "What will people do? Dance the electric slide?" This is an interesting comment. The answer is to be found in a number of countries. Ireland, Scotland, England, Germany, France, Russia etc. Yes, white people do have cultural traditions and dances going back thousands of years. Whether it be the Highland Fling or the Polka or Germanic tribal beliefs or Nordic legends, there is a huge body of white culture out there waiting to be found and this student's ignorance of it is probably the most effective argument for having a Caucasian Club.
One could start with the idea that Whites- like Blacks, Arabs and the Aboriginal American peoples- are tribal as well. Not that long ago they roamed the forests of Europe, hunting with spears just like any other tribal people.
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