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Firefighters Union Will Throw Support to Kerry, Officials Say
NY Times ^ | 9/19/03

Posted on 09/19/2003 10:14:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone

The International Association of Fire Fighters will endorse Senator John Kerry for president next week, union officials said yesterday, making it the first union to endorse a Democratic presidential candidate other than Representative Richard A. Gephardt.

Harold Schaitberger, the firefighters' president, declined to discuss his union's plans, but labor leaders who have talked with him said the union would back Mr. Kerry because its leaders thought the senator was the most electable Democrat.

The firefighters' endorsement, which is expected to be announced on Wednesday in Washington, is bound to hurt Mr. Gephardt's efforts to win the coveted endorsement of the A.F.L.-C.I.O., union leaders said.

In an interview on Wednesday, John J. Sweeney, president of the labor federation, said Mr. Gephardt did not yet have the two-thirds support needed for the A.F.L.-C.I.O.'s endorsement when its leaders meet on Oct. 14 in Washington.

But Mr. Sweeney, who voiced enthusiasm about Mr. Gephardt, said it was still possible that Mr. Gephardt could gain the two-thirds backing by the meeting. He said as many as 30 unions might endorse Mr. Gephardt by that date, more than double the 12, including the machinists and steelworkers, that have already done so.

From the start, Mr. Gephardt's strategists have pushed hard for the A.F.L.-C.I.O.'s endorsement, knowing that he has been a faithful friend of labor and that such an endorsement could give him a leg up in the Iowa caucuses and the New Hampshire primary.

Labor leaders said Mr. Schaitberger had questioned Mr. Gephardt's electability and planned to campaign all-out for Mr. Kerry. In two weeks, these labor leaders said, Mr. Schaitberger, whose union has 260,000 members and is the largest for firefighters, plans to appear with Mr. Kerry in New Hampshire, the first primary state, alongside hundreds of firefighters.

The firefighters' message could carry more weight than that of many far larger labor unions because its members carry a special stature since the Sept. 11 attacks, when 343 firefighters died at the World Trade Center.

Robert Gibbs, the Kerry campaign spokesman, declined yesterday to comment on the endorsement.

Mr. Sweeney said one factor making it hard for Mr. Gephardt to obtain the necessary two-thirds was that three of the nation's largest unions — the Service Employees International Union, the United Automobile Workers and the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees — did not appear likely to back an endorsement of him on Oct. 14.

Nonetheless, Mr. Sweeney said that if three other large unions — the American Federation of Teachers, the Communications Workers of America and the International Brotherhood of Electrical Workers — supported a Gephardt endorsement on Oct. 14, that could put him close to the two-thirds needed.

Union leaders close to Mr. Sweeney said he was weighing whether to try to build a two-thirds consensus for Mr. Gephardt. These officials said it would be embarrassing to Mr. Sweeney and Mr. Gephardt if Mr. Sweeney were to make a major effort, only to find that he could not muster the support.

Spokesmen for the electrical workers, auto workers and communications workers said yesterday that their unions were still polling their members and did not appear close to endorsing anyone.

Steve Murphy, Mr. Gephardt's campaign manager, said: "We know that getting the A.F.L.-C.I.O. endorsement is a bit of a long shot because you have to get two-thirds, and it's now nine candidates to one opposed to us getting the two-thirds. Nonetheless, we're doing very well with labor support. It's still 12 to 0, and we have more union support on the way."

Several union leaders said it would be awkward if the A.F.L.-C.I.O. endorsed Mr. Gephardt without the auto workers and state, county and municipal workers joining in, because they are the most influential, politically active unions in Iowa.

Democratic strategists agree that winning the Iowa caucus is important to Mr. Gephardt because it is next to his home state, Missouri, and he won the caucus in his failed 1988 bid for the Democratic nomination.


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; endorsement; johnkerry; kerry; unions

1 posted on 09/19/2003 10:14:21 AM PDT by areafiftyone
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To: areafiftyone
but labor leaders who have talked with him said the union would back Mr. Kerry because its leaders thought the senator was the most electable Democrat.

Well, unlike McClintock supporters, at least these guys accept reality when it kicks them in the mouth like a mule.

2 posted on 09/19/2003 10:21:11 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
You think Kerry is electable?
3 posted on 09/19/2003 10:23:21 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Not over President Bush. But as far as the rats go, I think he's the best they've got.
4 posted on 09/19/2003 10:24:49 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: A Broken Glass Republican
"...the best they've got.

"Best" socialist? (And that's being charitable.) I'd've thought Lieberman...and he's a girly man.

5 posted on 09/19/2003 10:30:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: areafiftyone
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[A croupier hands Renault a pile of money]
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[aloud]
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6 posted on 09/19/2003 10:42:45 AM PDT by MattGarrett
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To: areafiftyone
The firefighters' message could carry more weight than that of many far larger labor unions because its members carry a special stature since the Sept. 11 attacks, when 343 firefighters died at the World Trade Center.

With the behavior of many of the RATs after 9/11, I am shocked that any firefighter would support a single RAT for any office. The only hope here is that the union, not individual firefighters support Ketchup Boy Kerry.

7 posted on 09/19/2003 10:50:12 AM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (Clone Ann Coulter, the woman sent by God)
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To: onedoug
I would LOVE to see Leiberman get the nod...

The Leftists would FREAK and bolt the part for the Greens. Not only would this help us in 2004, but it would probably ensure Nader gets 5% and that would make him a thorn in their side in 2008 too due to his getting matching funds.

But you're probably right, if it was reasonable DemocRATs we were talking about Lieberman would be the man. But I think the America Hating Freaks are flexing some muscle for the rats this election cycle.
8 posted on 09/19/2003 10:50:44 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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To: areafiftyone
We probably need to remember that the IAFF only represents the paid firefighters. More than 70% of US firefighters are volunteers and have no union to represent them. So the IAFF only speaks for, at best, 30% of the firefighters.
9 posted on 09/19/2003 11:36:42 AM PDT by Firefighter603
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To: areafiftyone
IDIOTS
10 posted on 09/19/2003 11:43:35 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: Firefighter603
With any luck I'll be in this union soon, and do my bit to skew their votes rightward.

11 posted on 09/19/2003 12:30:28 PM PDT by Britton J Wingfield (TANSTAAFL)
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To: areafiftyone
IAFF Motto - My union before my country. My union before my dead brothers.
12 posted on 09/19/2003 3:51:09 PM PDT by Lexington Green (FREE TOMMY CHONG)
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To: areafiftyone
THat makes for some interesting headlines.

"Kerry gets endorsement. Others get hosed."
13 posted on 09/19/2003 5:18:30 PM PDT by .cnI redruM (There are two certainties. Death and Texas.)
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To: areafiftyone
Not all paid union firefighters are puppets to the IAFF. I'm voting for pro life candidate.
14 posted on 02/14/2004 8:22:25 AM PST by BES897
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To: bigfootbob

Firefighters4Bush.tripod.com
15 posted on 08/02/2004 5:10:03 PM PDT by FF4-Bush
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To: FF4-Bush

Cool!


16 posted on 08/03/2004 8:11:59 AM PDT by bigfootbob
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