No Evidence of Smallpox Found in Iraq

Yahoooooo Via AP ^ | 9/18/03

[KevinDavis]

More info from unnamed sources???

[Calpernia]

Then what is all this?

http://www.intellnet.org/news/?type=category&value=Smallpox

Intelligence News Summary

Germany accused of hiding evidence of smallpox virus arsenals in Iraq
Date: 2003-02-18 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Germany : Smallpox : Iraq
The German government suppressed evidence of small pox virus arsenals in Iraq for months, fearing such news could undermine Chancellor Gerhardt Schroeder's re-election campaign, according to a report in the Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung.
Region: Europe
Read It At: Jerusalem Post (Mirrored Copy)

Israel to Decide on Mass Smallpox Inoculation
Date: 2002-12-23 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Israel : Smallpox : Iraq
Israel will decide in the coming weeks whether to inoculate millions of its citizens against smallpox as it steps up preparations for a possible U.S. war against Iraq, Israeli officials said on Monday.
Region: Middle East
Read It At: Yahoo! (Reuters) (Mirrored Copy)

Iraq's Smallpox Samples May Be From 1970s
Date: 2002-12-13 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Smallpox : Iraq : United States
U.S. intelligence agencies believe any smallpox samples Iraq possesses came from the last domestic outbreak of the deadly disease in the 1970s, rather than from rogue Russian scientists or other external sources, U.S. officials said.
Region: Americas
Read It At: Newsday (Mirrored Copy)

Pentagon plans for smallpox outbreak
Date: 2002-12-13 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Pentagon : Smallpox : United States
The military could be called on to keep order and quarantine affected areas if there were a smallpox outbreak in the United States, according to a Defense Department response plan completed in September.
Region: Americas
Read It At: UPI (Mirrored Copy)

SECURITY SHAMBLES AS WE GO INSIDE SMALLPOX FACTORY
Date: 2002-12-07 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Security : Smallpox : Russia
TROOPS with assault rifles patrol the perimeter, stopping and searching each vehicle...welcome to the Vektor complex, deep in the heart of Siberian Russia, and one of only two laboratories in the world allowed to hold stocks of the smallpox virus. Now a Russian researcher working for the Sunday Mirror has been able to penetrate the supposedly tight security posing as a Vektor employee and using false papers.
Region: Europe
Read It At: Sunday Mirror (Mirrored Copy)

Washington, D.C. plans smallpox shots for entire city
Date: 2002-12-07 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Smallpox : Washington, D.C. : United States
The D.C. Health Department is scheduled to deliver a plan to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on Monday that proposes offering smallpox vaccinations to the District's entire population within a year.
Region: Americas
Read It At: Washington Times (Mirrored Copy)

US paper to face Russian smallpox lawsuit
Date: 2002-12-05 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Lawsuit : Russia : Smallpox
The daughter of a prominent Russian virologist is considering filing a suit against the New York Times. On December 3 the newspaper reported, citing CIA sources, that Iraq had allegedly obtained a particularly virulent strain of smallpox from Russian scientist Nelli Maltseva.
Region: Europe
Read It At: GAZETA..RU (Mirrored Copy)

Soviet scientist never sold smallpox to Iraq: Russian report
Date: 2002-12-05 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Smallpox : Russia : Iraq
Colleagues of a Russian scientist suspected of providing Iraq with a virulent strain of smallpox from her Soviet lab denounced the charges as "absurd" in an interview with a Russian daily published Thursday.
Region: Europe
Read It At: ProLog (AFP) (Mirrored Copy)

Smallpox in Iraq? CIA Investigates Allegations that Soviet Scientist Transferred Virus to Iraq
Date: 2002-12-04 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Smallpox : Iraq : CIA
American intelligence officials are investigating whether a Russian scientist transferred a particularly lethal strain of smallpox to the government of Iraq in the 1990s, ABCNEWS has confirmed.
Region: Americas
Read It At: ABC News (Mirrored Copy)
Read It At: International Herald Tribune (Mirrored Copy)
Read It At: Electronic Herald (Mirrored Copy)
Read It At: Brudirect.com (Mirrored Copy)

Experts: Iraq May Have Smallpox
Date: 2002-10-08 Posted By: Dan Sale Topics: Iraq : Biological Weapons : Smallpox
Several clues, including discovery in Iraq of equipment labeled ``smallpox,'' indicate the deadly virus could be part of Saddam Hussein's biological weapons arsenal, although the Bush administration has offered no public evidence to prove it.
Region: Americas
Read It At: FOX News (Mirrored Copy)

[JohnGalt]

Looks like this intelligence flub cost some lives:


ABCNEWS.com : CIA Hunts Smallpox/Iraq Connection 2/12/03
... In the United States, government scientists say the new allegations involving Iraq
and smallpox raise the stakes for President Bush, who must soon decide on ...
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/DailyNews/ Iraq_smallpox021203.html


Illinois, New York suspend smallpox vaccinations
Actions follow fatal heart attacks of 2 care workers
By Jeremy Manier and Peter Gorner
Tribune staff reporters
March 28, 2003
http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/iraq/chi-0303280297mar28,0,1436033.story


Anthrax vaccine tied to U.S. troop deaths?
Study: Shot 'possible or probable' cause of soldiers' pneumonia
Posted: August 6, 2003
3:33 p.m. Eastern
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=33954

[areafiftyone]

Wow that is interesting info. Thanks!

[Mo1]

Yea yea yea .. I'll wait till the final report as to what is going on

[Allan]

ping

[Domestic Church]

I guess if you wave 10 million in front of the media you can get just about anything published today.

[Peach]

Thanks for the ping. I rather think the report Kay is working on will have interesting information that will make the Rats rue their words.

[Bubba_Leroy]

Saddam Hussein hasn't been found in Iraq either. I'll bet he never existed!

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[Shermy]

But none of the Iraqi scientists — many questioned at their offices at Iraqi universities — said they had done work on smallpox or other viruses that could be used in biological weapons programs.

Case closed!

< /sarcasm>

And Iraq admitted to U.N. inspectors in the 1990s that its biological weapons scientists worked with camelpox, a close relative of the smallpox virus. Working with camelpox would give Iraq a way to perfect techniques for making smallpox without endangering the researchers.

And camelpox isn't a potential bioweapon? The spin of this article is - we can't find vials of smallpox, no scientist (now) that we can find would admit it, therefore, end of story. Acknowledge camelpox, negate its importance indirectly by rhretorically linking it to the smallpox theory the writer discounts previously.

[tallhappy]

Thanks for the ping.

This is good news. Yet it will be spun the other way as someone here on this thread is already doing.

Much more time is needed to thoroughly assess this, though.

[onedoug]

Good news that makes having gone in all the more worthwhile.

[Dog]

Someone is trying to discredit the Kay Report before it comes out........wonder if the unamed source here is Greg Thielmann .

[tallhappy]

I agree with your direction. A more informative report would discuss what was active vs simply focusing on "no smallpox".

What was the state of camelpox. Were those laboratories investigated or found. We need controls -- eg what info do we have and investigations are done on knowns. This is needed to assess how thorough an evaluation is concerning more questionable issues, such as smallpox.

I think that any real info is classified and reports like this can never provide too much detail or authoritative inclusive info.

[Peach]

Are they hoping everyone will be sleeping when the report comes out? The media won't be able to ignore totally the results, although they will find a way to spin it, of course.

[VRWC_minion]

So, there is no smallpox in Iraq therefore we didn't need to worry about it anymore ? Hello, logic check ? Testing 1,2,3 ...

[Mo1]

Someone is trying to discredit the Kay Report before it comes out

I agree .. but in the process these media/press are also discrediting themselves.

[VRWC_minion]

The smallpox team found cobwebs covering much of the inside

I find cobwebs on my front door in the morning.