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Clark and Vietnam II (Even David Hackworth hates Wesley Clark!)
WorldNetDaily ^ | April 23, 1999 | Col. David Hackworth

Posted on 09/17/2003 3:05:38 PM PDT by Timesink

Friday, April 23, 1999


Col. David Hackworth
David Hackworth
Defending America

Clark and Vietnam II


By Col. David Hackworth


© 1999 WorldNetDaily.com

NATO's Wesley Clark is not the Iron Duke, nor is he Stormin' Norman. Unlike Wellington and Schwarzkopf, Clark's not a muddy boots soldier. He's a military politician, without the right stuff to produce victory over Serbia.

Known by those who've served with him as the "Ultimate Perfumed Prince," he's far more comfortable in a drawing room discussing political theories than hunkering down in the trenches where bullets fly and soldiers die. An intellectual in warrior's gear.

A saying attributed to General George Patton was that it took 10 years with troops alone before an officer knew how to empty a bucket of spit. As a serving soldier with 33 years of active duty under his pistol belt, Clark's commanded combat units -- rifle platoon to tank division -- for only seven years. The rest of his career's been spent as an aide, an executive, a student and teacher and a staff weenie.

Very much like generals Maxwell Taylor and William Westmoreland, the architect and carpenter of the Vietnam disaster, Clark was earmarked and then groomed early in his career for big things. At West Point he graduated No. 1 in his class, and even though the Vietnam War was raging and chewing up lieutenants faster than a machine gun can spit death, he was seconded to Oxford for two years of contemplating instead of to the trenches to lead a platoon.

A year after graduating Oxford, he was sent to Vietnam, where, as a combat leader for several months, he was bloodied and muddied. Unlike most of his classmates, who did multiple combat tours in the killing fields of Southeast Asia, he spent the rest of the war sheltered in the ivy towers of West Point or learning power games first hand as a White House fellow.

The war with Serbia has been going full tilt for almost a month and Clark's NATO is like a giant standing on a concrete pad wielding a sledgehammer crushing Serbian ants. Yet, with all its awesome might, NATO hasn't won a round. Instead, Milosevic is still calling all the shots from his Belgrade bunker, and all that's left for Clark is to react.

Milosevic plays the fiddle, and Clark dances the jig. Stormin' Norman or any good infantry sergeant major would have told Clark that conventional air power alone could never win a war -- it must be accompanied by boots on the ground.

German air power didn't beat Britain. Allied air power didn't beat Germany. More air power than was used against the Japanese and Germans combined didn't win in Vietnam. Forty-three days of pummeling in the open desert where there was no place to hide didn't KO Saddam. That fight ended only when Schwarzkopf unleashed the steel ground fist he'd carefully positioned before the first bomb fell.

Doing military things exactly backwards, the scholar general is now, according to a high ranking Pentagon source, in "total panic mode" as he tries to mass the air and ground forces he finally figured out he needs to win the initiative. Mass is a principle of war. Clark has violated this rule along with the other eight vital principles. Any mud soldier will tell you if you don't follow the principles of war you lose.

One of the salient reasons Wellington whipped Napoleon in 1815 at Waterloo is that the Corsican piecemealed his forces. Clark's done the same thing with his air power. He started with leisurely pinpricks and now is attempting to increase the pain against an opponent with an almost unlimited threshold. Similar gradualism was one of the reasons for defeat in Vietnam.

Another mistake Clark's made is not knowing his enemy. Taylor and Westmoreland made this same error in Vietnam. Like the Vietnamese, the Serbs are fanatic warriors who know better than to fight conventionally in open formations. They'll use the rugged terrain and bomber bad weather to conduct the guerrilla operations they've been preparing for over 50 years. And they're damn good at partisan warfare. Just ask any German 70 years or older if a fight in Serbia will be another Desert Storm.

It's the smart general who knows when to retreat. If Clark lets pride stand in the way of military judgment, expect a long and bloody war.


Col. David H. Hackworth, author of his new best-selling "Steel My Soldiers' Hearts," "Price of Honor" and "About Face," has seen duty or reported as a sailor, soldier and military correspondent in nearly a dozen wars and conflicts – from the end of World War II to the recent fights against international terrorism.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2004; clark; davidhackworth; electionpresident; hackworth; maryhelp; perfumedprince; wesleyclark
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To: Timesink
Hack-attack Bump.
21 posted on 09/17/2003 5:15:49 PM PDT by DoctorMichael (>>>>><<<<<)
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To: colorado tanker
"Clark did his time with troop units and won a Silver Star. Give him his due."

Perhaps, but that doesn't make him any less of a a$$hole, IMHO.

"Hackworth is right about one thing, Clark was a political general, not a soldier's general."

And a soldier's general is what the U.S. military needs, not a political one. Lord knows that our military has suffered a lot over the years thanks to those "Perfumed Princes" (God, I love that term).

"What scared me about Clark's tour at NATO was his tendency to make bad decisions, like ordering the Brits to attack the Russians, or wanting to send unsupported attack helicopters into the Yugo mountains. I'm also concerned about the tendency to megalomania he displayed."

In other words, he's a dangerous a$$hole or at least a potentially dangerous one. I don't like the thought of him making big decisions, especially when it comes to foreign policy or the military.
22 posted on 09/17/2003 6:35:00 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: soothsayer99
From what I heard, Clark was discharged because he kept going over Sec. of Defense Cohen's head one too many times. I think that maybe he had orders from the Pentagon and NATO to resolve the situation with the Russians as quickly and effectively as possible. I don't think that Pentagon or NATO command specifically ordered him to attack them. Indeed, I don't think they would have wanted him to attack, because then the relationship with Moscow would have been damaged even more.
23 posted on 09/17/2003 6:38:50 PM PDT by Jacob Kell
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To: Jacob Kell
President Clark?

Now that Wesley Clark is an official candidate for president, people are naturally asking what a Clark presidency would be like. Reader Igor Yagonitser writes to tell us there has already been a President Clark:

As fans of the sci-fi show "Babylon 5" will tell you, President Clark was the guy who had then-President Santiago assassinated, formed a KGB-like organization called the Ministry of Peace, with a militant Gestapo-like brigade called the Nightwatch (they even wore arm-bands), and put Earth under martial law. The news networks were then dismantled and closed down, but when they "re-opened" all they talked about was how great it was under martial law--the silver lining was that it greatly reduced street crime.

All Hail President Clark!

According to this page, however, "President Clark committed suicide in 2261 at the close of the Earth Alliance Civil War, almost exactly three years after arranging the death of his predecessor." There's no word on President Clark's views of gays in the military.

Coutesy Best of the WEB

24 posted on 09/17/2003 6:58:49 PM PDT by dts32041 ("Any priest or shaman must be presumed guilty until proved innocent."--RAH)
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To: Timesink
With Hillary as his VP, will Clark be dying for her to be President?
26 posted on 09/17/2003 7:11:45 PM PDT by GOPJ
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To: Jacob Kell
Somehow, I see him in the role played by Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone.

The Missiles are Flying Gentlemen!

27 posted on 09/17/2003 7:37:34 PM PDT by Lx (Vote for Hillary because Hitler isn't running.)
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To: Radix
Clark was the commander at Ft. Hood, which is near Waco, during the Mt. Carmel disaster. There are claims that he supplied military hardware (and some military manpower) to assist Reno's gang.
28 posted on 09/17/2003 7:43:05 PM PDT by 2grit
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To: Radix
Clark is just a "placeholder".....someone to make sure the logistics are set up.
29 posted on 09/17/2003 9:48:48 PM PDT by MichaelDammit (unless its GOOD beer, it aint worth having....)
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To: Timesink
Just ask any German 70 years or older if a fight in Serbia will be another Desert Storm

Remind me: Did our involvement in the Balkans turn into "another Desert Storm?"

30 posted on 09/17/2003 9:54:06 PM PDT by RoughDobermann (Nuke the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure.)
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To: Timesink
I'm not sure it's fair for Hack to attack Clark's war record. The reason Clark didn't do another tour in Vietnam was because he spent a year in the hospital recovering from four bullet wounds. Clark might be liberal, ambitious, and dishonest, but let's not attack the man's war record without more evidence.
31 posted on 09/17/2003 9:56:01 PM PDT by Holden Magroin
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To: thucydides
He's only a good bet if he loses the nomination ... it would be interesting to see his candidacy flame out, that seems to be Clinton curse on their chosen picks.
32 posted on 09/17/2003 11:10:13 PM PDT by WOSG (Dont put Cali on CRUZ CONTROL.)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Ditto...And as for NOT being a DC insider...you can't be the head of NATO without being HIGHLY politically involved!
33 posted on 09/18/2003 5:07:35 AM PDT by GailA (Millington Rally for America after action http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/872519/posts)
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To: steplock
ARrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr -- me bad -- B A
34 posted on 09/18/2003 5:21:36 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: colorado tanker; Timesink
<< The Presidency is no place to give Waco Wesley a trial run at elective office. >>

That dog'll hunt!

35 posted on 09/18/2003 5:24:28 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Radix; colorado tanker
<< Clark was involved with that slaughter designed to help the children? Is that what you are implying? I have not enough knowledge on this. >>

KKKlark commandered the men who manned the tanks and helicopters and the shooters who collectively gassed and incinerated and incinerated Mr Koresh and his wife and children and around a hundred of his parishioners, friends and students.

WACO WEASILLY FOR HOT-SPRINGS, AR, DOGCATCHER!

Not.

36 posted on 09/18/2003 5:35:59 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Cap'n Crunch
'Perfumed Prince'... I love it.

I heard Rush call him General Wesley Wilkes as in Ashley Wilkes of Gone With The Wind. Some NY Writer campared him favorably with that masculine Ashley Wilkes. He obviously never saw the movie. The name fits perfect!


37 posted on 09/18/2003 5:44:51 AM PDT by Republican Red
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To: soothsayer99
Clark says he had orders from the Pentagon and NATO, and that British General Michael Jack disobeyed a direct order

I really can't imagine the DOD under Clinton and Cohen issued an order for NATO forces to attack Russian troops in Kosovo. That sounds like another "White House phone call" story from Wesley.

38 posted on 09/18/2003 9:20:04 AM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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To: monkeywrench
You are spot on. This guy was a political general who was promoted above his abilities and was justifiably relieved of command. A second Ike he most definitely is not.
39 posted on 09/18/2003 9:22:09 AM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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To: Jacob Kell
In other words, he's a dangerous a$$hole or at least a potentially dangerous one. I don't like the thought of him making big decisions, especially when it comes to foreign policy or the military.

An excellent translation of my thoughts.

40 posted on 09/18/2003 9:23:22 AM PDT by colorado tanker (USA - taking out the world's trash since 1776)
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