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To: cake_crumb
No offense, but there are ample posts (that the mods didn't catch) to allow the Fresno HRC to make it look like FR is a hate site. Comments about homosexuals, arabs and illegal immigration (seen any anti illegal threads lately or that the CA drivers license with the "bandito"?) would do the trick. They're probably going through the archives as we speak.

Remember, if this fight comes to a head, it will be won on sound bites and the fact is, some Forum posts will give Reyes all the ammo she needs. The debate has to be controlled and made an issue about the Fresno chapter (or all FR Chapters and the Network), not the Forum. That is an argument we can win.

109 posted on 09/14/2003 5:17:43 PM PDT by Bob J
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To: Bob J
"Remember, if this fight comes to a head, it will be won on sound bites and the fact is, some Forum posts will give Reyes all the ammo she needs. The debate has to be controlled and made an issue about the Fresno chapter (or all FR Chapters and the Network), not the Forum. That is an argument we can win."

Agreed 100 percent. I HAVE seen some of the posts on the threads you mentioned. I can think of some other threads too. While it could be argued that posts which could be interpreted as hate speech come from a militant fringe belonging to a relatively moderate group of..what is it now?...nearly 100,000 members isn't it?...and are not representative of the forum in general, you have an excellent point.

My point was that even if she wants to push it, the HRC's beef IS with the Fresno chapter, and the onus is on the HRC to prove the accusations they made in this unauthorized press release.

121 posted on 09/14/2003 5:35:25 PM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Bob J; diotima
No offense, but there are ample posts (that the mods didn't catch) to allow the Fresno HRC to make it look like FR is a hate site. Comments about homosexuals, arabs and illegal immigration (seen any anti illegal threads lately or that the CA drivers license with the "bandito"?) would do the trick. They're probably going through the archives as we speak.

No offense, but what the heck are you talking about?

Is the purpose of the Moderators to sanitize our posts, to insure that they're sufficiently politically correct?

I've been all over the Illegal Alien drivers' license threads, and not only have I not seen the word "bandidto," I doubt I'd blink if I did.

Illegal Aliens are foreign, lawbreaking colonistas. They have broken and entered into our country, and now are squatting in our living room. They are no different than burglars. They are bandits.

Americans who behaved like them in other countries would be bandits as well.

Most of the Illegals come from Mexico, where Spanish is spoken. The Spanish word for bandit is "bandito."

That's not hate speech, that's honesty. Don't apologize for it, or you're caving in to the thought police. This is a conservative internet forum, for Pete's sake. Anything we post is "hate speech" to the fascists on the Left.

Appeasing them will bring you no comfort. Take your finger off the panic button.

Quit looking for the scapegoat within, and have the courage of your convictions. Oppose restrictions on free conservative speech, without apology.

Remember, if this fight comes to a head, it will be won on sound bites and the fact is, some Forum posts will give Reyes all the ammo she needs.

Pogrom. There's a soundbite.

Sanitizing, memory hole, Orwellian... those are some more.

Free Speech. There's a far better one.

I'll choose the last. You?


162 posted on 09/14/2003 10:26:38 PM PDT by Sabertooth (Arnold opposes the driver's licenses, but he also wants to lobby DC to legalize Illegal Aliens. Ah.)
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To: Bob J
Agreed. Keep the focus on who attends these rallys...Fine people one and all. And hopfully none of those people made any of the "Bring a gun with you to the picnic" comments.

The Rallys are America at it's finest. Some of the nasty language, specifically anytime Islam is discussed, will sink the ship concerning this issue...It's some of the more "Hateful" stuff I've read.
170 posted on 09/15/2003 12:09:03 AM PDT by A Broken Glass Republican
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