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Bush-"Use Of U.S. Strength" Doesn't Cause Terror; Powell-Use Of Israeli Strength Does Cause Terror
ZOA ^ | September 8, 2003

Posted on 09/10/2003 1:11:12 PM PDT by yonif

NEW YORK- The Zionist Organization of America (ZOA) has condemned the statement by Secretary of State Colin Powell suggesting that Israel's actions cause Palestinian Arab children to grow up to be terrorists.

Speaking on the ABC News program "This Week" on September 7, 2003, Secretary Powell, who supports American assassinations of Bin Laden terror leaders and aides to Saddam Hussein, condemned Israeli assassinations of Hamas terrorist leaders who have murdered hundreds of Israelis and Americans. He said: "To kill one Hamas leader, but wound 9 children or 10 children in the course of this, who will grow up to become Hamas leaders or Hamas killers later, they have to consider the long-term consequences of this policy."

Powell's statement directly contravenes President Bush's national address on the same day, in which he said: "We have learned that terrorist attacks are not caused by the use of strength. They are invited by the perception of weakness. And the surest way to avoid attacks on our own people is to engage the enemy where he lives and plans."

ZOA National President Morton A. Klein said: "President Bush says terrorism is not caused by the use of American strength; Secretary Powell says terrorism is caused by the use of Israeli strength. President Bush says America must fight the terrorists 'where they live'; Secretary Powell says that Israel must not fight terrorists where they live. These contradictions indicate that the Bush administration has a disturbing double standard when it comes to Israel's fight against terror.

"It is appalling that Secretary Powell is saying Israel's actions cause Palestinian Arab children to grow up to be Hamas terrorists. Arab children grow up to be terrorists because the Palestinian Authority's school system teaches them hatred of Jews and glorification of violence--a school system that Secretary Powell has never demanded be changed. If Secretary Powell wants to prevent Palestinian Arab children from being raised as killers, he should suspend the Bush administration's $215-million in annual aid to the Palestinian Arabs until the change their schools. America does not refrain from killing Bin Laden leaders for fear that children nearby might be wounded and then grow up to be terrorists. America does not refrain from killing aides to Saddam Hussein because children nearby might be wounded might grow up to be Saddam Hussein supporters. Likewise, Israel should not refrain from killing Hamas mass murderers."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: bush; iraq; israel; powell; roadmap; waronterrorism
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To: carton253
All the Middle Eastern Countries HATE the Palestinains. Egypt and Saudi Arabia have killed thousands of them. They do NOT want them in their countries (aka NIMBY). This is FACT.

Palestianians are a miserabl bunch of low-lifes that no country in the ME will claim or help. That's probably why they are forcing them on Israel , whom they don't like either.

Does anyone here see them being defended by other muslimes? Nope.
41 posted on 09/11/2003 6:28:33 PM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: Roughneck
You are right... they hate the Palestinians but they use them. Use them mercilessly.

But to say that other Muslims won't defend them misses the reason there are Palestinians in the first place.

The Muslim countries (Saudis, Iran, Syria, Egypt, et al) back the Palestinians because of Israel. They use the Palestinians to destroy Israel. They keep the Palestinians locked up in the camps. They arm Hamas, Islamic Jihad, and a myriad of other terror groups. They provide weaponry, manpower, and money. They provide diplomatic cover and international pressure. They do it for one reason. To rid Israel of its Jewish population.

There objectives have not changed since 1948. What they couldn't do militarily in 1948, 1967, and 1973... they now do through terror and international pressure.

So, I do see them defended by other Muslims. But their defense would be a pretext... the true reason would be the destruction of Israel.

42 posted on 09/12/2003 4:53:48 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: Roughneck
Not the entire West. The majority of Americans, particularly christians, understand satanic propoganda when they see it.

Yet, Israel is put on the hot seat by America time and time again because of the oppression of the Palestinian people.

Right now, Israel is pressured by this Administration, held-back by this Administration, and sometimes coerced by this Administration because of the "oppression" of the Palestinian people, who only want to live productive lives.

It's a congame... but it works...

In the early 1970's, the PLO met with the North Vietnamese leadership. The question was how could the North Vietnamese have so much sympathy in America even though they were fighting American troops.

Self-determination was the answer. Giap told Arafat that self-determination is the buzz word that the West and especially America would respond to. Everyone wants self-determination.

That is what the Palestinians say they want. That is what the Road Map gives them.

Whereas I agree that the Palestinians are the authors of their own deserved destruction, the truth and reality is that the West and the US (especially) has bailed them out of their own deserved destruction time and time again while holding Israel firmly at bay.

But not all the responsibility rests with the West and the US... the Israelis have sent out conflicting messages as to their policy toward the Palestinians too.

43 posted on 09/12/2003 4:59:32 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: carton253
But not all the responsibility rests with the West and the US... the Israelis have sent out conflicting messages as to their policy toward the Palestinians too.


I agree. Further to this, most support Israel due to emotional/religious attachment - not political view. This "clouds" diplomatic action for either side.

American christians(I guess British as well, but cant speak for them)traditonally support Israel, by their Gods decree and by their hearts. And who supports Pals? Islamists (same as muslim, I dont know) and atheists.


44 posted on 09/12/2003 6:19:30 AM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: carton253
So, I do see them defended by other Muslims. But their defense would be a pretext... the true reason would be the destruction of Israel.


Yes, this was my point. Palestinians dont stand a chance.
45 posted on 09/12/2003 6:21:16 AM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: Roughneck
I guess I don't get your point. What chance don't the Palestinains stand?

Thanks for the clarification.

46 posted on 09/12/2003 6:27:18 AM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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To: carton253
"***I guess I don't get your point. What chance don't the Palestinains stand?
Thanks for the clarification.***"


My starting point: Other arab states defend palestinians only because the end justifies the means: the destruction of Israel.


Between the Israeli army (who are historicaly well known to be lethal) and under USA/British protection, the palestinians will be forced to make consessions if they want their own state - they lack military force to push the issue.

Although the United States is sitting on the fence regarding arafat right now, I dont believe they will allow the destruction of Israel. Israel will have allies. But the arab states surrounding Israel will not defend the pals militarily mainly due to oil money received by USA/Britain/et al.

Final point:
To date, the pals will NOT make concessions and the Israelis have made too many (in their opiniom and mine.This can lead to military action againts pals - who do not stand a chance againts the Israeli army coupled with United States/British intervention.

I know I talk in circles, did my best to clarify.


47 posted on 09/12/2003 11:36:06 AM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: carton253
There objectives have not changed since 1948. What they couldn't do militarily in 1948, 1967, and 1973... they now do through terror and international pressure. .............

Exactly. They have the UN riding behind them. And the lickspittel Euros.
48 posted on 09/12/2003 2:55:54 PM PDT by dennisw (G_d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: carton253
I agree in every form with your post... that is the saddest.. that we must watch the maddest of a people killing themselves.
49 posted on 09/13/2003 12:00:48 AM PDT by Almondjoy
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To: carton253
So, I do see them defended by other Muslims. But their defense would be a pretext... the true reason would be the destruction of Israel.


We agree.
50 posted on 09/15/2003 11:22:51 AM PDT by Roughneck (Like Terrorists? Vote for democrats in 2004.)
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To: Roughneck
We do agree!
51 posted on 09/15/2003 12:13:43 PM PDT by carton253 (All I need to know about Islam I learned on 9/11/2001)
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