Private Schools Cost Less Than You May Think

CATO ^ | September 8, 2003 | David Salisbury

[vikingcelt]

No, sorry. I've never heard of the Carden method. Good luck with it.

[conservatism_IS_compassion]

a lady who said she is not for vouchers because she will never pay for instruction of religion

. . . and you replied that it isn't up to her to decide that the kids are to be taught to disrespect her parents and their religious convictions. No matter how rich she is, and no matter how much tax she pays--or says she favors paying.

It's right and proper that educators be subject to a religious test--the test that of acceptability to the child's parents, not some busybody voter who doesn't even know the child, much less suffer the consequeces of the child's time and enthusiasm lost to pedagogic incompetence and futility.

The education must be for the child, and not the child for the education. But the child is not competent to define his/her own educational needs, and the government is not entitled to control the child's religious instruction. The child's parents, and only the child's parents, rightly have that authority. Her taxes do not buy the right to have any say in the matter at all.

She is demanding that the government subject educators to a religious test in direct violation of the doctrine of seperation of church and state (not to mention the First Amendment to the Constitution </sarcasm>).

[Spirited]

"D.C. is eighth highest in per student spending. It is tied for last with Mississippi in poorest academic achievement. D.C. is the ideal test case to show that government schools need and deserve effective competition

Needed repeating.
Every gathering should have a sign with that legend on it. People are brainwashed on the subject. Homeschooling results should have taught us better but blinders and media effects keep the public from recognizing how wasteful we are with tax dollars.

Now that the Feds are into it it will get worse.

[Capt.YankeeMike]

Wow. That hurts, but youre right, its worth it. I have my two sons at Chapel Hill Christian, Indianapolis. $2400.00 per year a piece. Sure you dont want to move to the midwest??? LOL
The WILY ol Capt.

[netmilsmom]

I did tell her that she has no right to say how my children would be educated, then she came back with the "I don't pay enough taxes to cover it."
I forgot that I did not have my first daughter until 1997, she started school in 2002. I have owned a home since 1989. I have more than paid for both of my daughters education (one doesn't start for two more years-I pay 4000.00 in taxes per year).

[lepton]

ANYONE owning a house is paying for it.

Anyone RENTING a house is also paying for it.

[Clemenza]

It is a "progressive" school. Virtually every wacky idea that comes out of Columbia Teacher's College is tested at Dalton. Of course the kids at Dalton all have tutors so the damage is limited.

Perhaps the greatest achievement of the otherwise lackluster Hugo Sonnenschein administration was the abolition of the School of Education at the U of C. It made Colombia Teacher's College look like Bob Jones University.

[brianl703]

As is anyone renting, since landlords generally don't eat the cost of property taxes.

[jwalsh07]

My oldest grandaughter started Catholic School this year. Her tutition is 2200 bucks and when her sister is old enough her tuition will be half of that. A group discount thing. Plus the church applies up to 500 dollars in your weekly contributions to offset the price.

The education they will recieve there is head and shoulders above the public school that both my daughters attended.

They had to take remedial courses their first year of college just to keep up. My mistake and as pennance I have made a promise to myself that as long as I can get to work my daughters and their husbands will have all the help they need sending them to Christain Schools. Unfortunately for me my other daughter has triplets who will be starting school in two years.

LOL

[scottlang]

My wife is an educator, I am in IT, we have both decided that hanged be the cost our children will go to a private Christian school. I will not inflict public school on my kids.

[mafree]

We are currently stationed in Germany so my oldest (7yr in the 2nd grade) unfortunately goes to a DoDDS school.

I've heard that overall, DoD schools are pretty good but you obviously feel differently. What are your criticisms?

[Straight Vermonter]

My oldest son's high school costs about $6,300 per annum. Almost no one pays this much, however, as the school offers substantial scholarships.

[rmlew]

It went beyond angst and normal alienation.
WE are dealing with poorly supervised highly intelligent children. Drug use and sex were rampant. Many came from public broken down homes.

On top of this there is a fundamental problem. Highly intelligent people have a tendency to be, ahem, eccentric. Some are smart enough to overcome or compensate for their problems. We are dealing with a group of gifted students. In my class at Collegiate IQ's ranged from 125 to 180.

[rmlew]

You went from Allen-Stevenson to Dalton. Culture shock!
Dalton is the Brown of the NYC elite schools.

I went to Ramaz and then to Buckley. I got accepted to Dalton and Collegiate for High School. While I hada great time visiting Dalton, it was not for me.

As for Political Correctness, virtually all of the schools have been infected. There is a special counsilor for gay students at Collegiate now. In my day (1992-95!) kids stayed in the closet until the last semester of senior year.
We aqre dealing with an all boys school. The last thing we wanted was a gay clique. Unfortunately, a new headmaster was brought in and decided to change the climate and mores of the school.

[rmlew]

The worst institutions in NYC are the UN, Ford Foundation, TC, and most of the media. OBL targeted the wrong buildings.

[WOSG]

Holy Moly $18k, you gotta being kidding ... under $3000 for our kids, "worth every penny" indeed.

Under $3000 is all you need when you have a decent basics-based elementary school education. I wouldnt trade it for an elite academy at all.

[maggief]

I'm paying 15K for a fourth grader.

[NativeNewYorker]

The choices in my neighborhood in Fair Gotham are "free" gubmint skools and $18,000 privates. Not much in between.

[ladylib]

How does she know you don't pay enough in taxes to pay the cost? My mother's last tax bill showed she paid $5,000 in property taxes for education. She doesn't have kids in school system anymore.

The local Catholic school charges $3,000, and the kids that attend it go to the best prep schools in the area when they graduate from 8th grade.

[speekinout]

I had an tiff with a lady who said she is not for vouchers because she will never pay for instruction of religion.

But she expects you to pay for teaching teens how to use condoms, etc. And for teaching teens that homosexuality is fine.

If she won't pay for teaching your children values you approve of, why should you pay for teaching them values you don't?
Most of our local taxes go for schools. In most places, the teachers unions have more to say about how that money is spent than the parents do. That's backwards.