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To: ohioWfan
You don't support my son. Be a man, and admit it.

You have finally done it. You have pissed me off. I respect your son's service. I served under Presidents Reagan and Bush I. I love my country, I love the soldiers. Some of my friends who stayed in are in Iraq. I am however offended by you waving your son around like a bloody flag in front of anybody who criticizes our Iraq policy.

It is disgraceful and disrespectful to your son, and what he is fighting for in the first place. We are a free country. If you want a leader who gets 99% approval at the ballot box for everything he does, Saddam used to get those numbers all the time.

I am sure that you said that every time Clinton used the military in Haiti, Somalia, Kosovo that it is wrong to question his policy because somebody's son is fighting there. You know that is B.S. yet you persist in spreading it. How dare you? Your son should be ashamed of your behaviour. He is fighting for freedom. He is not fighting for your right to cheer George Bush on uncritically no matter what he does.

There are 130,000 other sons and daughters out there other than your son. I hope your son gets on a plane back home very safely so you can quit using him as a battering ram to stifle any debate about Iraq.

Your son btw was told he was going to Iraq because Osama the fundamentalist a-hole was best friends with the butcher of Baghdad who was about as Islamic as Bill Clinton is christian. We were also told that we were about to get nuked or gassed with WMD's. $165 billion later, if this new request gets authorized, we still have no WMD, no Osama, No Saddam, and no anthrax killer. But because your son is in Iraq, we can't bring that point up.

Get off your high horse. I do pray that your son comes home safe, intact, and physically, mentally, spiritually wonderful. Just as I did for all the soldiers in Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo, Kuwait, Grenada, Panama.

Criticizing any of those actions does not mean you want OhioWfan's son to come into harm's way. Knock it off please. If you want us to pray for your son to be well, we will all do it. Don't you dare tell us to stifle our free speech though. It is anathema to everything he pledged when he was sworn into the military.

252 posted on 09/08/2003 8:46:09 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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To: dogbyte12
Congrats to you! :-) Awesome post, and telling it the way it is!
258 posted on 09/08/2003 11:05:57 PM PDT by Bella
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To: dogbyte12
Thank you for that post.
259 posted on 09/08/2003 11:21:28 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: JohnGalt; billbears; u-89; caltrop
Ping- check out this post.
260 posted on 09/08/2003 11:23:31 PM PDT by Burkeman1 ((If you see ten troubles comin down the road, Nine will run into the ditch before they reach you.))
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To: dogbyte12; billbears; Bella; Luis Gonzalez; Fred Mertz
I'm not stifling anyone's free speech. That's a crock.

You can say whatever you want against our Commander in Chief. You can say the mission in Iraq is useless, pointless.......a waste of money. I'm not trying to stop you, and you know it.

But it looks to me like it is YOU who are trying to stifle my freedom to say what I think. And what I told billbears is exactly what I think of HIM (I don't recall adding your name to the post....and I haven't read your posts, so I didn't have a clue as to what you thought about the mission in Iraq).

I gave my opinion, which is shared my many military families. If you don't support the mission my son is on, you cannot fully support him. HE understands the need for him to be there. HE understands its goal.

It's a widespread opinion, which was expressed by many military families about the peaceniks, and if you don't like it, that's your problem.

The Battle of Iraq has been won. The War on Terror continues......and it's focal point is Iraq. At the USO show in Baghad, there was a survivor of 9/11 who THANKED the troops for fighting this WAR that the terrorists began.

That is exactly what is happening now, and it is worth every penny we spend to keep that war off the streets of America.

That's MY opinion, and in spite of your desire for me to shut up, I am free to express it.

And don't you DARE tell me I have been disrespectful of my son! He is not ashamed of me, and if he were here, he would be angry with you for dismissing his mission as a waste of money. He is proudly serving this country for the cause of freedom in a war against an enemy that seeks to destroy everything we stand for, whether you understand that or not.

(The military understands the difference between xlinton's abuse of them, and Bush's respect for them, and you ought to as well. The comparison of Somalia and Haiti, and the military hater xlinton was a low blow. There is no comparison there).

262 posted on 09/09/2003 5:21:31 AM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: dogbyte12
"Your son should be ashamed of your behaviour."

You should be ashamed of your behavior, I am embarrased to read your post.

You're posting to the American mother of an American soldier standing in harm's way, doing what soldiers have always done...following orders.

What do you expect this mother to do? Shame her son by standing on a street corner demanding that our troops home home?

Debate the politics of her son's mission?

The mere fact that you would even expect a mother of a soldier to discuss the politics of his mission is shameful, and you embarras whatever branch of service you "served" in.

Mother are about hope, and pride, and support...and this mother BELIEVES BECAUSE HER SON BELIEVES!

She's not some bitter, Scrooge McDuck worrying about his pocket, she's THE AMERICAN MOTHER OF AN AMERICAN SOLDIER AT WAR!

And if you were any sort of a man or woman of substance, you would be praying with her, for our troops...for the accomplishment of their mission, and their safe return home...and yes, you will pay for that plane ride as well.

"Your son btw was told he was going to Iraq because Osama the fundamentalist a-hole was best friends with the butcher of Baghdad who was about as Islamic as Bill Clinton is christian."

The only thing you may have served under Bush and Reagan was lunch, her son was told he was going there because those were his orders.

And THAT'S what soldiers do...follow orders.

281 posted on 09/09/2003 7:48:50 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez ("As a nation of freemen, we must live through all time, or die by suicide." - Abraham Lincoln)
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To: dogbyte12; ohioWfan
My God, dogbyte, what a cruel person you can be when pissed off. Even in anger words such as what you spoke to Ohio are inexcusable. You are tripe--rotten, worthless. It is a shame that our sons and daughters are defending your right to freedom. Fortunately for us, you will be but a smudge in our recollection of you as soon as I finish this post.

Hope you enjoyed your 15 minutes of evil --and may you never again demean a mom whose whole life is presently in Iraq. Next time, exercise discipline--it will look good on you.

Guess what--we gave Saddam months to get rid of the WMD. Remember when the inspectors in early 1990's declared no WMD but when Saddam's son defected he told them where they were hidden and they were found? Are you really that stupid to think that Saddam gave up his WMD? For all you know they are hidden in the Sunni triangle--where our brave troops are fighting.

Mark 3:23 "A kingdom at war with itself will collapse. A home divided against itself is doomed." Stick with your country.

You are one big jerk
309 posted on 09/10/2003 8:42:33 PM PDT by olliemb (I write to stupid people)
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