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To: billbears
That's really sad.

Yeah, it's sad alright.

You, just like the peaceniks, CLAIM to support the Armed Forces, while failing to support what they are doing.

Sad, alright...... I don't believe them, and I don't believe you.

Go back and see what you've said about our mission in Iraq, and then see if you have the nerve to say you support my son who is there. Every nasty post you write is a slap in the face to the family members of those who PROUDLY serve there.

You don't support my son. Be a man, and admit it.

247 posted on 09/08/2003 7:42:43 PM PDT by ohioWfan (Have you prayed for your President today?)
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To: ohioWfan
Sad, alright...... I don't believe them, and I don't believe you.

Lady, frankly I'm to the point I could care less what you believe. I have attacked no one, merely stated my position and my belief. I have seen some of the most venomous posts from the side of 'right' I have seen on FR in a long time. Call me names, that's about all I've seen from some posters supporting the war. I present facts, I get back 'well the President said so' with no documentation other than perhaps Fox News, Rummy reports, and PNAC lackeys. I believe in this nation of states, however I believe in the document that established this nation moreso than a symbol, a moment, or one person. I have said nothing hateful or vengeful about the President of these United States other than call into question the reasoning and the arguments presented to the citizens of the respective states.

I have never had my conservatism called into question in real life. Unfortunately of late in the general public, I see conservatism is dead and has been for awhile. Partisanship is more important. "Our" guy's in so we believe anything he says. I stand for a conservatism that sad to say I believe is either gone from this nation of states for good or quickly on the way out. A centralized nationalism focused on one man, one imperfect man (whatever party) has taken its place. And Franklin rolls over in his grave

And FWIW, whether you believe me or not, I do hope your son comes home safely

249 posted on 09/08/2003 8:25:19 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: ohioWfan
You don't support my son. Be a man, and admit it.

You have finally done it. You have pissed me off. I respect your son's service. I served under Presidents Reagan and Bush I. I love my country, I love the soldiers. Some of my friends who stayed in are in Iraq. I am however offended by you waving your son around like a bloody flag in front of anybody who criticizes our Iraq policy.

It is disgraceful and disrespectful to your son, and what he is fighting for in the first place. We are a free country. If you want a leader who gets 99% approval at the ballot box for everything he does, Saddam used to get those numbers all the time.

I am sure that you said that every time Clinton used the military in Haiti, Somalia, Kosovo that it is wrong to question his policy because somebody's son is fighting there. You know that is B.S. yet you persist in spreading it. How dare you? Your son should be ashamed of your behaviour. He is fighting for freedom. He is not fighting for your right to cheer George Bush on uncritically no matter what he does.

There are 130,000 other sons and daughters out there other than your son. I hope your son gets on a plane back home very safely so you can quit using him as a battering ram to stifle any debate about Iraq.

Your son btw was told he was going to Iraq because Osama the fundamentalist a-hole was best friends with the butcher of Baghdad who was about as Islamic as Bill Clinton is christian. We were also told that we were about to get nuked or gassed with WMD's. $165 billion later, if this new request gets authorized, we still have no WMD, no Osama, No Saddam, and no anthrax killer. But because your son is in Iraq, we can't bring that point up.

Get off your high horse. I do pray that your son comes home safe, intact, and physically, mentally, spiritually wonderful. Just as I did for all the soldiers in Somalia, Haiti, Kosovo, Kuwait, Grenada, Panama.

Criticizing any of those actions does not mean you want OhioWfan's son to come into harm's way. Knock it off please. If you want us to pray for your son to be well, we will all do it. Don't you dare tell us to stifle our free speech though. It is anathema to everything he pledged when he was sworn into the military.

252 posted on 09/08/2003 8:46:09 PM PDT by dogbyte12
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