[Radix]

We are not going to be able to keep this technology from speading to these rogue states...

That is exactly what we must do. That is what we are obliged to do. We simply must keep this technology from spreading to these rogue states.

We have no real choice, and money is no (or should be no) object.

The American agenda, must be one of containment. If a nation seeks to obtain nuclear weapons, they must be clear in the knowledge that they do so at the peril of their very existence.

What the heck is the problem with that notion?

What the eff? Are we supposed to allow these primitives to have their own nuclear version of our second amendment?

[Kozak]

That is exactly what we must do. That is what we are obliged to do. We simply must keep this technology from spreading to these rogue states.

My point is it's an impossibility. It's too widespread, too mobile and too profitable. With poor ex Soviet, Pakistani, Chinese, Korean, etc etc etc scientists and technicians in the market, with German, French, Russian, and Chinese companies to make, buy, divert or convert the hardware we can't do it. Containment has failed. We need another plan now. And it better be in place within the next 5 years.