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One Chance to Kill SB60 (Illegal Drivers Licenses), Says McClintock (CA FReeper Alert, PLEASE READ)
Tom McClintock, KRLA radio, KABC radio | truthkeeper

Posted on 09/05/2003 4:59:52 PM PDT by truthkeeper

Okay, a little voice told me to put up this thread...
Since I heard Sen. McClintock explain this plan twice in two days, during two different radio station interviews, I thought it would be a good idea to synopsis it. (I think is an excellent idea.)

As we have all pretty much figured, the way to do something about the passage of the illegal alien driver's license law, which will be signed any moment by our traitorous, corrupt governor, lies in our "ruby slippers," our wonderful referendum process. According to McClintock, the California Republican Assembly (a group which endorsed him, and the largest of its kind in California), already is buzzing about a plan to challenge the new law "once Davis's pen hits the paper." I have already checked their website and found nothing as of yet; however, McClintock says as soon as he has more information it will be linked on his website. (Let's keep watching for this.)

Here's how it would work. Signatures on petitions would be gathered as with the recall; however, the good news is that he said only a relatively small number would be required. (Off the top of his head, McClintock didn't know the exact amount, but he thought only about 1/4 or 1/5 the amount required for the recall. It should be a lead pipe cinch to get this on this one, IMHO.)

Of course, the signatures need to be collected in the proper, legal manner - I don't have the details to post at this time, but we can get that info readily - and then appropriately forwarded. The good news, according to Sen. McClintock, is that as soon as they are collected and forwarded as required by law, this ridiculous new law MUST BE IMMEDIATELY STAYED UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULED ELECTION. That would be MARCH 2004 if we can get the signatures quickly enough. And remember, this idiotic law doesn't go into effect until Jan. 1, 2004. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we could beat it to the punch entirely? Does anyone seriously have any doubts we'd knock this thing out in a referendum election?

Another thing, he mentioned that the CA Republican Assembly is not only talking about a referendum, but a possible lawsuit. He didn't give any more detail than that, though...this is all just at the beginning stages, naturally.

Anyway, I thought we could all use a little hope and a positive outlet for our righteous anger. We need to stick together and work positively to show these idiots that this is still OUR STATE, not theirs!


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Announcements; Extended News; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: caconstitution; california; driverslicenses; graydavis; illegalaliens; legislature; referendum; sb60; terrorism
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To: Tempest
People will follow a leader. He's definately showing leadership.
61 posted on 09/05/2003 5:43:18 PM PDT by monkeywrench
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To: Eala
The law means California licenses could no longer be used for identification or driving in Colorado after the California bill takes effect next year. And that's ALL Californian drivers' licenses, not just the illegals'.

Somebody else said it first, but this IS getting interesting now.

62 posted on 09/05/2003 5:44:42 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: DumpsterDiver; demlosers
I keep reading about Colorado's new law regarding California's licenses but I can't find any information about it doing web searches. Have you seen any direct links to the Colorado law itself?
I'd love to have a copy of it to go with the petition for a referendum.

I think it would be perfect -- a key selling point. demlosers' posting said McClintock made the comment, perhaps he has the info -- or perhaps the McClintock campaign does. It's interesting because their 2003 legislative session was scheduled to adjourn for the year in May. How could they get a new law after that? ( http://www.colorado.gov/government.htm)

63 posted on 09/05/2003 5:45:42 PM PDT by Eala (The government that robs Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.)
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To: Tempest
Ballot initiative = make law

Referendum = repeal law

64 posted on 09/05/2003 5:45:57 PM PDT by eldoradude (Support a referendum on illegal driver's licenses!)
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To: truthkeeper
I can't wait to sign it and I've got two other voters in my household ready to do the same - and my wife was born in Bogota!
65 posted on 09/05/2003 5:46:03 PM PDT by Argus
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To: Gritty
He seems to be the only one with any good ideas.

An unelectable candidate (McClintock) cannot effect change.

66 posted on 09/05/2003 5:46:05 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: All
I must leave for now. I'd appreciate it if the bumps, pings, and helpful info and links kept coming. Remember, this is just a start...a brainstorming and "get the word out" thread. I suspect it may be a couple of days before we can get more info on how to get this thing started.

Many, many thanks...you're all great.

67 posted on 09/05/2003 5:48:18 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( be)
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To: monkeywrench
That's cute and it sounded almost pretty. If I wasn't so well grounded in reality I would tend to agree.

Hehe. Monkeywrench what a great name. . .
68 posted on 09/05/2003 5:48:34 PM PDT by Tempest (I've lost all hope for half of you.)
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To: truthkeeper
We need a massive ping list set up for this. I already know a bunch of people that think driver's licenses for illegals is a really bad idea (including some people against the Recall...)

Website with petitions...ASAP

DD

69 posted on 09/05/2003 5:49:07 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: truthkeeper
We need to move fast and legal on this.
70 posted on 09/05/2003 5:49:22 PM PDT by Khurkris (Ranger On...)
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To: strela; All
Please, no flames, strela. We really don't want that on this thread. (Or at least I don't.)

Please, could everyone respect that and keep it civil? There are many other threads available for heated discussion of that sort.

71 posted on 09/05/2003 5:51:23 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( be)
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To: truthkeeper
Count me in!
72 posted on 09/05/2003 5:51:34 PM PDT by eldoradude (Support a referendum on illegal driver's licenses!)
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To: Khurkris
RIGHT ON, that's it exactly. Now I gotta run.
73 posted on 09/05/2003 5:52:09 PM PDT by truthkeeper ( be)
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To: strela
This is not a bash McClintock or Arnold thread. This is serious business. Take your comments elsewhere. There are plenty of threads for you to spew your poison.
74 posted on 09/05/2003 5:52:24 PM PDT by Two-Bits (God Bless our Country, Our Military and their families, and President Bush!!!!!!)
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To: Two-Bits
Take your comments elsewhere.

Make me.

75 posted on 09/05/2003 5:53:11 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: strela
Listen the grown-ups are now talking and children should be seen and not heard. Go to your room.
76 posted on 09/05/2003 5:53:54 PM PDT by Two-Bits (God Bless our Country, Our Military and their families, and President Bush!!!!!!)
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To: eldoradude
Well it's my understanding that it was legel for Illegal Aliens to aquire driver's licenses in California up till 1994. So this current legislation would be a referendum as well then. No? Yes?

77 posted on 09/05/2003 5:55:07 PM PDT by Tempest (I've lost all hope for half of you.)
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To: truthkeeper
This is insane .... do Davis realize what he is about to do ??

ANYONE can pick up a new ID in America simply by going to California, getting a Taxpayer ID and then turning it into a driver's license.

Boom, say goodbye to a criminal underclass (new ID)
Say goodbye to fugitives from justice
Say goodbye to real deadbeat dads.
Say goodbye to ANYONE that wants to disappear

Would it really be that hard to get a matricula ID if a criminal flashed enough cash at corrupt Mexican officials ?

78 posted on 09/05/2003 5:55:33 PM PDT by Centurion2000 (Islam : totalitarian political ideology / meme cloaked under the cover of religion)
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To: Two-Bits
LOL. I'm still here, your temper tantrum and balled-up little fists notwithstanding.
79 posted on 09/05/2003 5:56:11 PM PDT by strela (It is not true that Larry Flynt's biggest financial donor is Dicker and Dicker of Beverly Hills.)
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To: DumpsterDiver
Roger that
80 posted on 09/05/2003 5:59:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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