Abortion poster arrests applauded(U.K.)

BBC ^ | Wednesday, 3 September, 2003

[nickcarraway]

The poster was exhibited during campaigning in south Wales

[nickcarraway]

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[xm177e2]

Should gay rights protesters be able to stage demonstrations of sodomy on the streetcorner? Or merely to wave about pornographic pictures? If it's for political reasons, it should be legal, right?

Oh, that's right. The same people who want it to be legal to wave around anti-abortion pictures want the police to enforce a double-standard and not allow any causes they disagree with to put up graphic posters (for the children, mmmkay?)

[nickcarraway]

I just see words on that poster.

What if gay rights activists are</I. allowed to protest like that on the streets. Should ``unpopular'' protesters have less rights than protesters that espouse the establishment cause?

[fini]

I think the parallel you are drawing is incorrect. I think a better one would be a graphic picture of a car accident. If they would have been arrested for showing a picture of a horrific car accident (in order to show the horror of speeding), then there is no double standard.

[xm177e2]

I just see words on that poster.

That's obviously not the poster that caused the uproar (if you read the article, the poster(s) in question contained pictures of aborted fetuses). It was disingenous of that poster to post a picture of that poster on this post.

I absolutely do not think there should be a double standard, I am pointing out that the very same people who want to allow these disgusting posters in public space are the ones who want a double standard.

[Restorer]

The point is that the whole position of the pro-abortionists is based on misleading people about what happens when an abortion is performed. That is why they wish to prohibit others from reminding them.

Why are people so upset by the accurate portrayal of a procedure they approve of?

Could it be in their hearts they know it is wrong?

[wingnuts'nbolts]

If abortion is a cause worth promoting, why is a picture of a dead bleeding baby offensive? Do most people think the kids swim out and fly away? Abortion is murder! Showing pictures of the victim is reasonable if minds are to be changed. If people find it horrifying I have no empathy for them if they are pro abortion, the rest of us understand the battle. Children can only benefit from knowing what this is about, the killing of babies. It may shape thier views. Children are treated regularly to gays acting out in public and on tv. They are even taught how to do it in school. Double Standard? Not! It is only a shootin' offense when the right does it.

[af_vet_1981]

I believe in democracy, I don't understand why people would cheer election candidates being arrested.

People often suppress democracy and free speech unless it conforms to their agenda. It is a myopic view that considers democracy and free speech to be settled issues. The battle is constantly joined to defend those rights.

[Deathmonger]

"The Crown recognises the need for free speech but that free speech comes with a responsibility not to insult others." An Orwellian definition of free speech if there ever was one. Not unexpected coming from a govt official.

[af_vet_1981]

Should gay rights protesters be able to stage demonstrations of sodomy on the streetcorner? Or merely to wave about pornographic pictures? If it's for political reasons, it should be legal, right?

Okay, you've convinced me. No protesters can display pornography. Anyone who breaks the rule can be imprisoned and fined.

Deal ?

[semaj]

..."the poster was the cause of the insult,"

They got it wrong. The subject of what the poster depicted is what caused the insult

"The general public demanded the poster be taken down and some ladies were in tears and visibly upset"

There is yet hope. Could it be that these two women have a heart for children.

[madprof98]

In the post-Christian world (Europe, Canada, and increasingly, the USA), the only remaining sin, evil or wrong (I'm fishing for a neutral word for this) is OFFENDING others. The posters were "distressing" - therefore, it was a crime to show them. Would posters depicting sodomy meet the same fate? Check the ads in the San Francisco subway. (True, such stuff might be "distressing" to Christians, but they do not count because they are by definition hate-mongers.)

[dmanLA]

Isn't it amazing how people react when they are reminded visually what they are doing when they have an abortion?

It's murder!!

Those who promote this appalling procedure will have to answer to God. By the way, he LOVES children.

[nickcarraway]

Good point. I used to live in England, and if you go into virtually any phone booth, you can see all kinds of pornographic ads. It seems very weaird for them to claim that nothing offensive can be in public, given the offensive stuff they already allow.

[dmanLA]

Sorry, "...He LOVES children."

[Prodigal Son]

If they would have been arrested for showing a picture of a horrific car accident (in order to show the horror of speeding), then there is no double standard.

And you know what's interesting here? In British movie theatres, before the show and during the upcoming movie trailers, they routinely show public service commercials that I find disturbing. Usually, they're about drink-driving or kids running into the road but they always depict death or hideous injury- quite graphic at times. Like I said, I personally find these adverts disturbing and I suppose that's the intent the gov't wants to instill. So, it's ok to disturb people in the theatre but not on the street for a protest...

[sweetliberty]

Well gee, if the poster is "disturbing", just think how much MORE "disturbing" is the "procedure" which it portrays. The baby killers can't handle the truth.

[sweetliberty]

"the only remaining sin, evil or wrong (I'm fishing for a neutral word for this) is OFFENDING others"

Only certain "others." It makes absolutely no difference how badly offended or heartbroken Christians, conservatives and others who still believe in decency might be as long as those who are defending evil are not offended. It is perfectly acceptable to offend those who defend what is good. The new commandment of the day is "thou shalt not offend a liar with the truth."

[mtg]

...I am pointing out that the very same people who want to allow these disgusting posters in public space are the ones who want a double standard.

Well that's a totally uneducated, unjustified statement.