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Calif. Recall Hopefuls Hold First Debate
Yahoo! News ^ | 9/3/03 | Tom Chorneau - AP

Posted on 09/03/2003 7:29:57 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

WALNUT CREEK, Calif. -

In the first debate of California's recall election, candidates vying to oust Gov. Gray Davis (news - web sites) attacked front-runner Cruz Bustamante for accepting Indian casino money and connected actor Arnold Schwarzenegger to an adviser's unpopular remarks on property taxes.

The skirmish came after a relaxed Davis told a separate forum with reporters and voters that the recall effort had been an awakening and that he would fight to keep his job and repair the state's problems.

The debate set the stage for the final month of the campaign and offered the best look thus far at the spectrum of opinions on the major issues in the recall, ranging from the state's budget to illegal immigrants to taxes.

Schwarzenegger did not attend the debate, and as a result could not defend himself as candidates took him to task on the tax issue. Schwarzenegger said he would attend a debate on Sept. 24 in which candidates are allowed to see the questions in advance — unlike Wednesday's forum.

Five candidates participated in the debate: Bustamante, columnist Arianna Huffington, state Sen. Tom McClintock, former baseball commissioner Peter Ueberroth and the Green Party's Peter Camejo.

The debate is the first of three scheduled so far in advance of the Oct. 7 vote. Candidates qualified for the debate by receiving at least 4 percent support in either a recent poll or the last statewide vote.

Before the start of the debate, Davis said he had not acted soon enough to deal with the state's energy crisis and pledged to keep in better touch with the people.

"I understand people are angry. I understand that people's lives are not as good as they were two years ago," said Davis, employing a theme he has repeatedly used throughout the recall campaign.

Bustamante, the Democratic lieutenant governor who leads the most recent poll, was criticized for taking advantage of a loophole in campaign finance law that allowed a tribe to pledge $2 million to his financially struggling campaign.

Huffington, an independent, said Bustamante had made a mockery of campaign finance laws, which allowed him to circumvent new contribution limits by accepting the bulk of the money in an old campaign account.

"This is nothing but legalized bribery," Huffington said.

"Tell me how you really feel," Bustamante replied.

He went on to say that he has been a longtime supporter of tribes and was proud of the support he had received.

Huffington and Camejo teamed up to link Schwarzenegger to remarks his billionaire adviser Warren Buffett (news - web sites) made that Proposition 13 might need to be reworked. Proposition is the voter-approved initiative that limits property tax hikes.

Schwarzenegger has said he wouldn't touch the law, and has tried to distance himself from Buffett's statements.

Camejo suggested that Schwarzenegger shut Buffett up, but he said he did voters a favor. "I say give him a microphone," Camejo said.

Bustamante also said the popular tax initiative should be retooled for commercial property, but McClintock and Ueberroth — Republicans who were in lockstep on a number of issues — said they would not change the tax formula.

While some of the candidates blamed Davis for the state's budget problems, Bustamante did not, instead jabbing at Schwarzenegger by saying "my option is to distinguish myself from those who are here and the guy who is not."

Even Davis indirectly took swipes at Schwarzenegger, blaming the state's problems on his predecessor, Republican Gov. Pete Wilson, who is now a key adviser to the actor's campaign.

Schwarzenegger gave a speech before supporters and college students Wednesday, saying he wants to give back to the state that has helped him launched his career. He literally came under attack during the event when he was hit by an egg.

Appearing after Schwarzenegger on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews," Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record) also criticized him for not appearing at the debate.

"Here's a movie action hero, and he's going to duck the first debate," she said.

During his brief question-and-answer session, Davis said he would rather have raised taxes on the wealthy than to have increased fees on college students and he repeated claims that the recall was a right-wing effort to rewrite history after Republicans lost the fall election last year.

"It's like the Oakland Raiders saying to Tampa Bay, 'We know you beat us, but we want to play the Super Bowl again,'" Davis said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Crime/Corruption; Front Page News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; calif; debate; hopefuls; recall
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Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, left, answers a question, as from second left to right, Arianna Huffington, Green Party candidate Peter Camejo, Republican Peter Ueberroth, and State Sen. Tom McClintock listen during the California Gubanatorial Debate in Walnut Creek, Calif., Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003.  (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma, pool)
Wed Sep 3, 7:58 PM ET

Lt. Gov. Cruz Bustamante, left, answers a question, as from second left to right, Arianna Huffington, Green Party candidate Peter Camejo, Republican Peter Ueberroth, and State Sen. Tom McClintock listen during the California Gubanatorial Debate in Walnut Creek, Calif., Wednesday, Sept. 3, 2003. (AP Photo/Paul Sakuma, pool)


1 posted on 09/03/2003 7:29:58 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge
I just got through seeing the debate, Tom McClintock handled himself very well. I had to press the mute button while Arriana Huffington spoke. Her voice is like nails on a chalkboard.
2 posted on 09/03/2003 7:34:11 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: Commander8
McClintock sounded great, which of course means he doesn't have a chance.
4 posted on 09/03/2003 7:35:26 PM PDT by Huck
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To: NormsRevenge

The Also Rans

5 posted on 09/03/2003 7:36:40 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: NormsRevenge
I know no one's posted on this thread about this yet but...
I just don't understand why so many people from all parties are against this recall! We are simply putting a check on the government's imbalance. Civil (and not so civil) popular uprisings are an integral part of who we are as a people (everyone remembers it wasn't all hugs and puppies when we left England, right?). Yes, it's a shame Gray's there in the first place, and yes, it's a little chaotic, but we've never done it before. . .anyway, sorry to write a book, just had to get it off my chest. (Btw, I've lived in California all my life).
6 posted on 09/03/2003 7:38:53 PM PDT by President_Leary (S.F. Protesters - weapons of mass ignorance)
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To: President_Leary
Exactly right! It's about time we had a little tea party on the West Coast - throw the taxes in the Bay along with the politicians who "soak" us with them. :)
7 posted on 09/03/2003 7:41:20 PM PDT by BlessedByLiberty (Respectfully submitted,)
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To: NormsRevenge
Bustamante: "Nothing I won't give illegal immigrants, nothing I'd do differently than Davis did."

I watched the very well-run debate and concluded California is bizarre.

Good luck!

8 posted on 09/03/2003 7:42:37 PM PDT by mrsmith
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9 posted on 09/03/2003 7:43:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
Not to worry. The front runner has said he will debate in a proper forum.
10 posted on 09/03/2003 7:44:20 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: mrsmith
Bizarre? That may be a bit of an understatement. ;-)

11 posted on 09/03/2003 7:44:46 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: NormsRevenge
Wow..the wimpinator, huh? Idiotic, yet somehow stunning in its simplicity..
12 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:24 PM PDT by President_Leary (S.F. Protesters - weapons of mass ignorance)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; *calgov2002
Ping and index
13 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:43 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: Italics
Does anyone know when the next polls are coming out? It's been like a week since the last one.

That's a great question. I've been asking about that myself.

I saw some of the debate. It was excellent. ;-)

14 posted on 09/03/2003 7:45:59 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds ("Don't mind people grinnin' in your face." - Son House)
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To: NormsRevenge

Who says State employees are not overpaid and underworked?
15 posted on 09/03/2003 7:47:05 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Huck
I beg to differ, Arnie-come-lately didn't have the guts to show up.
16 posted on 09/03/2003 7:50:51 PM PDT by Commander8 (Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth? Galatians 4:16)
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To: NormsRevenge
Hey Norm...

Did you see the Debate Chicken has a NO on 54 on his chest...this makes the chicken a Davis or Cruz Minion...

DD

17 posted on 09/03/2003 7:50:54 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1

On the one FIST...but on the other FIST...

DD

18 posted on 09/03/2003 7:55:55 PM PDT by DiamondDon1 (Official Tombot, Member VRWC)
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To: DiamondDon1
A declawed Bengal tiger.
19 posted on 09/03/2003 7:58:12 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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