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Charles Bronson dies (2003)
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Posted on 08/31/2003 7:19:53 PM PDT by hemogoblin

That's it - just came in our newsroom


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To: SuziQ
From his bio page:

Birthday: September 19, 1933
Birth Place: Glasgow, Scotland
Birth Name: David Keith McCallum

Biography:
Parents: David McCallum Sr. & Dorothy Dorman
Siblings: Iain (older brother)
Married to Jill Ireland (actress) 1957 - 1967
Married to Katherine Carpenter (interior designer) September 1967 to present
Children: Paul, Valentine (with Jill Ireland) Peter and Sophie (with Katherine)
Adopted a son Jason (died Nov. 7, 1985 from an accidental drug overdose) with Jill Ireland

121 posted on 09/01/2003 10:17:36 AM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: Cultural Jihad
Thanks! I thought '68' was more feasible for Bronson to have married Jill Ireland.

David McCallum was always a favorite of mine. He was SO CUTE as Ilya!

122 posted on 09/01/2003 10:25:52 AM PDT by SuziQ
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To: hemogoblin
Rest in Peace, Charles Bronson. A classic, irreplaceable actor and wonderful human being has gone on to eternal peace. I read a newspaper obituary of him about 30 minutes ago, it said he was a gentle man underneath his tough guy exterior; and it also said that all his next of kin (son, daughters, in-laws, grandchildren) live in Los Angeles.
He was lucky to have all his next of kin live nearby; in present day America it is a rarity to have all close kin nearby, as we are a very mobile society.
123 posted on 09/01/2003 10:33:10 AM PDT by TaqueriaFanatic
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To: TaqueriaFanatic
Forgot to comment, from the info. I see , he had stong family values, an all-American who was proud of his country, unlike liberal Hollywood today.
124 posted on 09/01/2003 10:38:26 AM PDT by TaqueriaFanatic
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To: hemogoblin
Bronson's best ...


125 posted on 09/01/2003 11:15:46 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Der Elite Møøsenspåånkængrüppen ØberKømmååndø (EMØØK))
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To: hemogoblin
Bummer I really liked watching him. What was that one where he was a holdout in the old west and He dig out the inside of his log cabin? And fought everyone off. Cant remember it that well.
126 posted on 09/01/2003 11:20:48 AM PDT by ezo4
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To: gedeon3
Thanks, I scheduled Spanish and Thermodynamics during the same hour one semester...guess which class won out...
127 posted on 09/01/2003 12:35:53 PM PDT by in the Arena
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To: ezoeni
" What was that one where he was a holdout in the old west and He dig out the inside of his log cabin? And fought everyone off. Cant remember it that well. "

It wasn't in the " Old West " , it was in 20th centuty as a radio and airlane were used in the flick . Anyway , the name of the movie is DEATH HUNT . Lee Marvin also starredin it . Coincidentally , I watched this last night .
128 posted on 09/01/2003 2:44:11 PM PDT by sushiman
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To: Clinton's a liar
I know you're not around FR anymore. I also know that you worked with Bronson in Death Wish 4.

Expressing my condolences in case somebody knows how to get in touch with you.

129 posted on 09/01/2003 2:45:42 PM PDT by snopercod (taking the fine art of syncophancy to new heights)
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To: YaYa123
"He saw combat action as a tail gunner over Europe in World War II."

He claimed to be a tail gunner on a B-29. They were only used in the Pacific during WWII.

His memory is subject to review by all.
130 posted on 09/01/2003 3:34:58 PM PDT by rudyard
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To: a_Turk
Certainly the best vigilante I have even seen in the movies. His talent will be missed.
131 posted on 09/01/2003 4:36:23 PM PDT by Mixer
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To: hemogoblin
My favorite Charles Bronson movies are Hard Times and Once Upon A Time in the West.

R.I.P. Harmonica :(

132 posted on 09/01/2003 4:44:48 PM PDT by kb2614 (".....We've done nothing and were all out of ideas!!")
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To: rudyard
It looks like FRANK SOJAK is the one that got it wrong
 
"Old Overcast"
61st Squadron
3 4

This particular crew was assigned to the 61st Squadron, 39th Bomb Group on Guam from July until October 1945. Ken Trow, its Airplane Commander, has many recollections of these years as well as those that followed during his Air Force career.

Ken joined the RCAF a year and a day before Pearl Harbor and it was there he received his flight training and commission as a, Pilot Officer. In 1942, he was transferred in grade to the US Army Air Force and was assigned as an instructor pilot in AT-6's. At the end of October 1943, it was decided it was time for Ken to become more active in the war effort, and he was sent to Lockburne AFF in Columbus. Ohio to learn how to fly four engine aircraft. They turned out to be war-weary B-17's. By the end of December he had completed his transition training and was sent to Clovis, New Mexico to train as a pilot in the very latest in aircraft - the B-29. He and his wife, Alice, arrived in Clovis on New years Day, 1944. After a very comprehensive training period, which consisted of five hours of flying time - Trow was judged to be a qualified B-29 instructor pilot. Most of the crew training during this time was done in B-17's. There just weren't enough B-29's available yet.

At this stage, the B-29 was not a tried and true aircraft. It was still very much in the developmental process and crews were actually being used as much for the purpose of testing them as for training. It was difficult to catch up in the building of needed B-29's because we were losing them nearly as fast as new ones arrived. Ken remembers two occasions when he was lined up waiting for take off. Both times, the planes ahead of him crashed. Also, there were many times he returned to the field on three engines, sometimes even two. He never failed to kiss his wife when leaving the house to go flying. The way things were going, it could be his last flight.

In the spring of 1945, it was determined that Trow had done enough instructing and it was time for him to become more closely involved in the war. The director of training at Clovis, who was a close friend, received a call for a weather reconnaissance crew for overseas duty. He thought this might be a good deal so he named Ken for the job. The bombardier was replaced with a weather observer, and the crew did some additional training. A great deal of time was spent climbing to 30, 000 feet and dropping out a radiosonde transmitter and as it descended by parachute to the ground, the radio operator would record the transmissions. A radiosonde that was normally sent up by balloon from the ground, in this case the procedure was reversed.

The weatherman assigned to A/C Trow had not had any formal gunnery training and a nose gunner was required. The man assigned to this position was a young fellow named Charles Buchinski, which at the time was not significant. It wasn't until after the war that the name again came into view - this time on the movie screen. He later changed Buchinski to Bronson!

When it came time to depart for overseas, the crew moved up to Wichita to await their B-29. As soon as it arrived, they were on their way to Mather Field, Sacramento, CA. After a final briefing there, they headed for North Field, Guam by way of Hawaii and Kwajaleln. When Ken reported to the Commanding Officer, he immediately recognized him as having been in a class of students he had instructed at Dothan, Alabama! It's truly a small world.

Ken recalls one take off very vividly. It was dark and rainy and visibility was poor. Instead of turning the generator switches on, flight engineer Kit Carson made a major goof and turned them off! This meant that the only electric the aircraft had was that supplied by the "Putt-Putt." When the plane became air bound, and the gear up switch was hit, all of the lights went out! Even though Sgt. Carson immediately realized his error, the instrument panel lights were fluorescent and it required several seconds for them to restart. The 500 feet gained as they passed over the cliff gave Trow a short breathing spell. It was at that point, that nose gunner Buchinsky, who had been sitting on the aisle stand, reacted. He quickly produced a flashlight, which allowed the pilot to see the panel instead of flying blind.
 

Ken also recalls the method they would use to take care of rats that occupied the airplane. Occasionally, one would be seen scurrying along when they were flying at high altitude. He would order all the crew to put on oxygen masks then depressurize the aircraft. It would only be a minute or two before the rat had succumbed. They would dispose of the body by throwing it in the nose wheel well where it would drop out when the gear was let down. Capt. Trow would then re-pressurize.

Ken Trow and his crew had only flown five missions, when the Japanese decided to quit. Ken likes to think that he had something to do with it.

In November of 1945, he flew "Old Overcast" back to the States and was separated from the service at Mather Field.

In January of 1946, Ken decided to re-enter the service. He did so with the permanent rank of Master Sergeant.

Later as Crew Chief on a C-54, Trow's crew had the pleasure of flying General Curtis LeMay around for over a week and developed a genuine like, and respect for him. There were four other generals along on the trip. One day as LeMay was walking through the fuel compartment of the C-54, puffing on a cigar as usual, one of the 'generals cautioned him, declaring he could blow up the plane.

General LeMay so typically snapped, "It wouldn't dare!"

During the next 16 years - 1946-1962 - Ken had many assignments in many places - Eglin AFB, Florida, Ladd Field, Fairbanks, Alaska, and Great Falls, Montana to name only a few. His career had been interesting, varied and fulfilling, but now it was time to quit. He and his wife settled down to civilian life in Vaughn, Montana.
 

brontrow.jpg

Film Star Charles Bronson explains the scene to Ken Trow during the filming of MGM's movie "Telefon". Trow was the captain of the B-29 Bronson served on during World War I I, and visited the location at Great Falls airport to renew old acquaintances. (Tribune Photo)

Weather Observation Crew Main Page
61st Squadron Crew Index

133 posted on 09/01/2003 5:14:52 PM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>_____\0/________)
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To: hemogoblin
Oh, that's sad
I always liked him, very masculine in a sea of limp wrist Hollyweird actors
134 posted on 09/01/2003 5:38:27 PM PDT by apackof2 (Watch and pray till you see Him coming, no one knows the hour or the day)
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To: kb2614
i liked hard times myself, i believe he said about 20 words in that one...

my favorite bronsonism was at the end of "10 to midnight"...
when the killer started pleading liberal justice practices... saying "i'm sick, i'll get off because i'm sick"...

bronson just said "no you won't" and plugged him between the eyes...
135 posted on 09/01/2003 7:47:09 PM PDT by teeman8r (that and his line from mag 7... usually i get 300 plus expenses... but right now $3 is a lot of $)
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To: ladyinred
Death did not take him without a fight.

R.I.P.!
136 posted on 09/01/2003 8:16:43 PM PDT by Frank_2001
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To: Syncro
Every time I watch this movie, I see something different, it gets better each time.

"Only at the point of dyin"

RIP, Mr. Bronson

137 posted on 09/01/2003 8:39:08 PM PDT by Licensed-To-Carry (Oh Lord, hold thy nose and close thine eyes, for You will surely puke.)
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To: Licensed-To-Carry
 
Cinematographer Tonino Delli Colli's widescreen closeup
of Charles Bronson in Sergio Leone's Once Upon a Time in the West.

138 posted on 09/01/2003 9:03:23 PM PDT by wolficatZ (___><))))*>_____\0/________)
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To: wolficatZ; Licensed-To-Carry
The Cinematography was outstanding.

Ti Ming.

139 posted on 09/01/2003 10:13:33 PM PDT by Syncro
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To: ChicagoRepublican
"The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have Promises to keep.
And miles to go before I sleep.
Miles to go, Yuri."

140 posted on 09/01/2003 10:34:21 PM PDT by PLMerite ("Unarmed, one can only flee from Evil. But Evil isn't overcome by fleeing from it." Jeff Cooper)
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