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A Conversation With Tom McClintock (Would take Proposition #187 back to court)
Human Events ^ | August 28th, 2003 | Human Events Editorial Board

Posted on 08/28/2003 8:17:39 AM PDT by Sabertooth

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To: truth_seeker
Finally!

Now I know how to make a contribution.
Now... where can I get bumper stickers?

81 posted on 08/28/2003 2:57:43 PM PDT by Publius6961 (californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: hoosierskypilot
"No common-sense political candidate has a prayer in CA. The state is dominated by deviants, perverts and reprobates. There are some good people here, but their numbers are so small as to be insignificant."

That is BS and it insults many conservative voters and representatives in California.
82 posted on 08/28/2003 3:03:15 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: truth_seeker
This is precisely why both major parties have historically had favorable results with candidates which held much of their base, and appealed to the center.

The problem as I see it, is when we begin to see people lofted for public office that make no pretense of holding that base on merit, in fact champion the causes of the left, yet we are still triangulated to accept what they offer us rather than "a Bustamante" for instance.  It's the old "lesser of two evils thing" all over again.  I myself am sick to death of it.

It's easy for me to say I will not vote for Schwarzenegger under any circumstances, but leadership knows I can't stick to that policy for long.

Republican leaders in this nation couldn't have done a better job of destroying conservatism.

83 posted on 08/28/2003 3:06:34 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: truth_seeker
You are completely out of touch with reality. What's the weather like on your planet, anyway?

CA is an international commie/pervert joke. You seem to be the only one who doesn't know that.

Let's see you produce a viable candidate who will stand against homosexuals, baby murderers, criminal immigration and anti-gun fascists. It cannot be done. Not in CA.

84 posted on 08/28/2003 3:34:07 PM PDT by hoosierskypilot
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To: Tancredo Fan
Good Luck to all California freepers. Keep up the pressure.
85 posted on 08/28/2003 4:29:17 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak (Stop the open borders death cult)
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To: StarFan; Dutchy; alisasny; Black Agnes; BobFromNJ; Brad's Gramma; BUNNY2003; Cacique; Clemenza; ...
ping!

Please FReepmail me if you want on or off my infrequent ‘miscellaneous’ ping list.

86 posted on 08/28/2003 9:57:34 PM PDT by nutmeg (Is the DemocRATic party extinct yet?)
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To: Sabertooth
losing narrowly to Democratic Rep. Tony Beilenson. In 1994, he lost by another narrow margin in an initial race for state controller

Has Saint McClintock spoken up on vote fraud? Has Huffington? CA, you gotta problem.

87 posted on 08/29/2003 5:35:19 AM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: DoughtyOne; Sabertooth
D1: I would never believe the Doughty one capable of slip-slope-sliding away all hope to the Left as you do in this post.

You seemed in deep funk due to a statist nightmare you see having no ending.
This entire post of yours is unreadable.

So, I gotta believe you're joking.



Thanks Saber: for posting this interview.
88 posted on 08/30/2003 7:10:07 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (Those banning G-d from public view want you answering to them and to no Higher.)
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To: GrandMoM
It's so clear that Tom McClintock is the only hope for Ca.

You are absolutely right. If we don't support him, California goes completely socialist. [

89 posted on 08/31/2003 2:05:58 PM PDT by Jennikins (It matters not what we want, as we are being ruled, not governed.)
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To: Jeff Head
A (very belated) thanks for the ping, Jeff. Been off-site for a while.

I haven’t the time to read this entire thread, so, if I’m being repetitious of others’ comments, my apologies.

Were I a California citizen, I would vote for McClintock in a heartbeat, and it really saddens me to see otherwise-sensible FReepers supporting the likes of Schwarzenegger (more often than not, as the ‘lesser of the evils’).

Under no circumstances could I pull the lever next to Mr. S’s name -- except perhaps if he were someday running against the likes of Stalin/Hitler/Clinton (he or she).

Boiling it down to three simplistic (yet weighty) reasons:

(1) Mr. S is nothing more than an ego-inflated political opportunist (not unlike most politicians, but I have never knowingly voted for any of that type). And he has a ‘Kennedy wife’ to boot (a glaring negative, in my book).

(2) From all accounts, Mr. S knew virtually nothing about issues troubling the state of California (let alone the country of which it is a part) until he decided to throw his hat into the ring. I saw and heard several interviews with him early on in which he answered absolutely no questions of substance (and appeared to have no knowledge which would provide him a solid answer anyway). I believe he has since surrounded himself with many ‘advisors’ whose politically-opportune opinions are being funneled into his campaign rhetoric. No substance obtained through years of political observation or activism. Simply meaningless, pandering verbiage.

Any fifty-six year old man who deems himself worthy of holding an office as important as the governorship of California, and yet hasn’t taken the time, or made the effort, over those fifty-six years to be informed about the problems that face that state must surely believe that chutzpah and ego count more than dedication and character. Not so in joanie’s book of ‘a man’s worth’.

(3) These un-retractable, very telling statements by Mr. Schwarzenegger that ought to be burned into the brain of every conservative who favors the idea of electing a ‘political outsider’ (most of whom are ‘outsiders’ in name only, or they wouldn’t enjoy the support of their back-stage puppet masters), and who believes that Arnold will be ‘the people’s governor’:

‘We spent one year wasting time [on the impeachment and trial of Bill Clinton] because there was a human failure. I was ashamed to call myself a Republican during that period.’ [Schwarzenegger also stated that he would ‘never forgive’ the Republican Party for successfully impeaching Clinton].

‘In reality, I'm for gun control. I'm a peace-loving guy.’

‘At the moment, they're dealing with it [cloning] by putting the religious spin on it. .... There are some people who are religiously fanatic, that feel uncomfortable with it. But I think that's also a mistake.’

‘I have no sexual standards in my head that say this is good or this is bad. 'Homosexual' -- that only means to me that he enjoys sex with a man and I enjoy sex with a woman. It's all legitimate to me.’

I’m tired of listening to leftists conveniently dressed in the garb of conservatives. If he looks like a leftist, walks like a leftist, and talks like a leftist (especially when he is in the company of others of like mind, and believes that no conservatives are within earshot), he doesn’t get my vote -- no matter how loud he talks, how craftily his words are scripted, or how insistent he is that those (carefully calculated for public consumption) words should be pleasing to the ear.

~ joanie

90 posted on 09/02/2003 10:45:46 AM PDT by joanie-f (All that we know and love depends on sunlight, soil, and the fact that it rains.)
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To: joanie-f
It's all legitimate to me

That statement by Arnold should give everyone pause about where any number of issues could go under his administration. The more I have heard him and his "team", the more certain I am that I could never support him, either on some of the most critical social issues or, more and more on the economic issues as well.

McClintock has the track record, has shown long term commitment to principle and has articulated a position and plan that are in keeping with the foundational principles of this republic and its liberty. NONE of the others have even come close to these qualities. I need say no more, he would have my vote if I lived in California.

God help them and bless their minds and understandings in this recall vote.

91 posted on 09/02/2003 2:08:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head
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